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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

For those not familiar with DragonFucker/Rider/Drag:

Dragon uses the pronoun "drag" in place of "I", "drag's" in place of "my".

They wouldn't say:

I like cheese. Blueberry isn't my favorite. I know what my heart wants.

They would say:

Drag likes cheese. Blueberry isn't drag's favorite. Drag knows what drag's heart wants.

Beyond whether or not they literally think they are a dragon, going to marry a dragon, beyond even using 'drag' as a custom neopronoun that normally replaces 3rd person pronouns...

They are using what they call their own custom first person pronouns, but this reads to basically every English speaker as constantly referring to themselves in the 3rd person by using their own nickname, akin to the royal 'we'.

Dragon has told me that they don't see "drag" as a nickname, but as a pronoun.

... I don't think they are trolling, in the sense of just doing something annoying to get a rise out of people, a voluntary activity one choses to do consciously.

Their grammatical behavior is consistent across all their posts, they don't only engage in it from time to time.

I've even had a few conversations with Dragon where I've attempted to explain that half of the hate they get and arguments they get into stem from people misunderstanding what they are saying, because of their extremely niche way of using pronouns.

They've told me, directly, that my understanding of how their pronouns work is correct, and that this proves that their pronoun/grammar style is thus not confusing, and that eventually everyone will just adapt and understand them.

...Despite the fact that I told them I had to do like an hour worth of research to figure out how this all actually works, which Dragon ... intially chastized me for, saying it was all clearly evident from their profile (it wasn't), and that I did not need to do that much research...

...even though I seem to be the only person I am aware of explaining Dragon's grammar/pronoun style in every thread we both happen to be in where most other people are just misunderstanding them and that leading to arguments.

Anyway, I've never heard of anyone using custom pronouns for "I" and "my" until Dragon.

Ever.

I myself am queer, have run in many circles with many lgbtqia folks, and I've even dated a queer person legitimately diagnosed with DID, and not even they would use their own custom first person pronouns for their alters, or the collective system of alters as a whole...

[–] tb_ 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They would say:

Drag likes cheese. Blueberry isn't drag's favorite. Drag knows what drag's heart wants.

If it is indeed a custom first person pronoun, they are using the wrong third person version of the verb.

Which is odd, but also, like, whatever. I don't have a horse in this race.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

If it is indeed a custom first person pronoun, they are using the wrong third person version of the verb.

Correct.

Dragon says they're using 'drag' as a pronoun, but they actually are not.

They are using it as a nickname whereby they constantly refer to themself in the third person.

They don't believe this is what they are doing, but it is what they are doing.

Its not actually a coherent neopronoun structure that works within the grammatical rules of English.

Further, I should add that Dragon states that their preffered 'drag' pronoun also operates in second person, on their profile.

Meaning that if you were talking directly to Dragon and said:

You like blueberries, right?'

...they would presumably view the use of 'You' as not respecting their preferred pronouns, which should instead be 'Drag'.

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