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President Biden: My Legacy Is "I Kept My Word," "When I Said I Was Going To Do Something, I Did"
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Gee. How could that have happened in the Senate that Democrats controlled at the time?
The filibuster, which Biden did try to push for removal in certain areas. Joe Manchin and Sinema wouldn't budge on it
He said he was in favor of removing the fillibuster only for two votes. For everything else he was flatly against eliminating it. He was all for keeping the filibuster in place when republicans regularly held the government hostage on budget bills to. Why did he take the republican side on that? No one knows. It makes no sense.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/21/biden-nothing-done-filibuster-abolished-500502
We gave Democrats a majority. We gave them the opportunity. They didn't do what we elected them to do.
Joe Manchin is barely a democrat - though he's probably the best you'd get out of West Virginia. In other parts of the world, he'd be a different party and he's already left the Democratic party
Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn't. He actually tried to do what he could via executive action in many areas. He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action
He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act), large infrastructure investments, etc.
Biden has many many faults. You don't need to claim there's ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it
Joe Manchin's obstruction is the last word people got from the Democratic Party on a host of issues.
Like he did with most of BBB, yes.
That's what happens when you spend decades being on the wrong side of issues, as Biden was with both cannabis and student loans. You don't get credit for slapping a tiny store-brand bandaid over the problems you made a career out of creating and exacerbating. Especially when the tiny store-brand bandaid falls off.
Centrists really overestimate the popularity of that law. Sometimes they wait a whole other sentence before gloating about record oil production.
His other faults make me disinclined to carry water for him.
You mistake me for a centrist, and that I am not. You mistake me as a fan of Biden, and that too I am not
Yes, we definitely need so much more. We're not going to get it if we shit on any and every single piece of good news. We're just going to end up with people too burnt out to do anything. Take the small wins and use them as motivate to build for much larger change we need
A lot of activists put work to make those changes. I am defending the activists and people who put the work in and got wins that no one acknowledges
In history, it's almost always been the people like that who get change through even with imperfect and flawed people. Lincoln didn't decide to free enslaved people on his own. He only opposed its expansion and even at that he was quite weak on it. He was willing to give much of that up to stop the civil war at first. But he was closer to the goal of abolitionists and they worked hard to get him to change his tune. Fredrick Douglas is often the classic example of that. He was pissed by Lincoln, called him the "white man's president" and kept speaking with him in the hopes that he'd actually do what he said he would do and go beyond it
They eventually started to get concessions even if for frustrating reasons. They needed more union soliders and so they convinced to make a mostly symbolic gesture of the emancipation proclamation. It only freed enslaved people when the union regained land. It didn't free any of the enslaved people behind union lines
But it got the ball rolling, now the union was in a more of a moral fight rather than just trying to keep the union together. Even though the win was small and nowhere need what needed it started shifting how the Union had to appear to itself and to other countries. It eventually ended up leading to the 13th, 14th, and 15th ammendments
It's easy to find fault in anything. It's much harder to build that change. I encourage you to find some route to change that's productive and build something with it
No, you're defending Biden.
Because we didn't elect enough of them. You're really leaning on "we have a majority because West Virginia"?
There are never enough. They killed the public option last time we gave them a supermajority.