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“My sense is that many enterprise WordPress administrators will think twice about continuing to use the software under these circumstances,” said IDC Research Manager Michele Rosen. “It’s such a shame to watch a leader in the open source community repeatedly sabotage his own project.”

“At this point, I have real concerns about the impact of Matt Mullenweg’s words and actions on the overall image of open source software,” she added. “Even if he feels that WP Engine’s actions are unethical and the court is wrong, his actions are clearly having an impact on the WordPress ecosystem, including his own business. It seems self-destructive.”

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[–] x00z 98 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I always find it funny how WordPress somehow believes they aren't just lucky that their EXTREMELY shitty software was useful at the time. It shows how power makes people think they have value.

[–] Valmond 22 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

I have tried it out like once every decade and it's always the same hot mess and I end up making my own homegrown html mess.

Is there no other FOSS alternative?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

There are dozens, depending on what exactly you want to do.

[–] kalleboo 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

WordPress started out as a terrible hack PHP app and somehow while PHP the language has been improving to allow people to build sane apps, WordPress has somehow gone the other direction to make themselves EVEN MORE INSANE.

It used to be you could make a custom styled theme by taking the default theme and editing the HTML/CSS to customize the pages.

The current default themes use the most insane methods known to webdev. They replaced CSS with JSON files. And then use CSS embedded in JSON embedded in HTML comments inside of PHP files. It's completely incomprehensible.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I remember trying to edit the default theme once and simply couldn't work out why everything had a 5px margin around it. Even setting * {margin: 0 !important} didn't fix it

In the end it turned out to be an inline style, injected into the page by JS, after the rest of the page had loaded. It was apparently a fix for an IE6 bug, in 2019, why?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

I've been looking into Payload CMS. It's FOSS for the non Enterprise features I believe.

[–] TheFunkyMonk 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I build Craft CMS sites at work. It’s a paid product, but has a free version with some minor limitations and is open source. It’s fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

TYPO3, Drupal, Joomla and others come to mind, but these are fully fledged CMS and not as end-user friendly as WordPress.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

Oh no, Joomla is just Wordpres with worse documentation.

[–] MITM0 2 points 18 hours ago

The fully-fledged WP alternative should be called WordPrint

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 hours ago

Honestly, Docusaurus. The idea of a site for editing the site is so overkill. Docusaurus is great, just write some Markdown, convert to standard HTML. It's what I use for: https://nowsci.com.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Isn't ghost an alternative?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Every once in a while I go looking for FOSS alternates to WordPress . . .can't find one. Ghost is the closest I got and it's nowhere near the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Publii is a good alternative.

[–] amon 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Wordpress is overpowered for most blogs, it is underpowered for most web apps.

[–] umbraroze 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I'm a Drupal fan. It's wayyyy too overpowered for every purpose equally. ...If I need a personal blog, there's always Jekyll.

[–] amon 2 points 18 hours ago

Jekyll is so good