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Lord Of The Rings Memes

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[–] jordanlund 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

In fairness, Mount Doom has multiple different names. Source: Finished the Silmarillion for the first time last night. :)

Orodruin, Amon Amarth, Mount Doom.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, it's like The Grand Canyon has a bunch of other names, but the one we stuck with is just: "The grand canyon. You know which one I'm talking about." Sometimes the boring but obvious name works. It's more believable that the people in this world renamed stuff to something obvious.

[–] papalonian 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I used to parrot the "created multiple languages, named the place Mount Doom" meme up until I started getting deeper into Tolkien lore. Now I'm the obnoxious one that points out all the other names for Mount Doom, as well as translating other "cooler" names to show that they're all similarly named (my favorite being Khazad Dum, or "Dwarf Hall", followed by Cirith Ungol, or "Spider Cleft").

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

This is also fairly common in real life, for example, this map of Japan with the Prefectures translated to English.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I think this is the same in pretty much every country (well, once you add in people's names, like Jacksonville or Virginia), but it's a little more difficult to find because you have to use an etymology dictionary instead of just looking up the meaning of Chinese characters in a regular dictionary of that language because they're are still in current use.

For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_county_name_etymologies?wprov=sfla1

[–] kamenlady 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MeatPilot 4 points 2 months ago

Got to stop at How? Good on the way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I want to go to How Good? now to find out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

"can you fetch the fork lift? I need to get a palette of troops from the army warehouse"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

...yeah, i'd rock thousand leaves...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

still hill huh, sounds dangerous

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Nourishing joy sounds like a pleasant place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

my favorite being Khazad Dum

Which is pronounced with the second word as "doom" still so you know that's the only good name he had in his mind

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mount Doom is also where the band Amon Amarth got their name from which is funny because they don't have any songs with Tolkienian fantasy and they're not really even huge Tolkien fans. It just sounded cool

[–] Trail 3 points 2 months ago

TIL. I had imagined it'd be something of Vikingish.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You read what?! What sort of sorcerer are you?

[–] jordanlund 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, just the usual kind. :)

NGL, it's a tough read, but I figured out why...

There's really no dialog. There are characters doing things, but it's all distanced, like seeing things happening from 10,000 feet up instead of being in the same room.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I haven't tried since I was in my late teens. I read a lot but that one got me. I'm 50 now and still haven't picked it up again. Good on you.

[–] jordanlund 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Here's the other problem... He repeats himself.

So the book starts with the creation myth, the Gods creating the world with a song.

Then he tells it again, with a little more detail.

Then he tells it again with more detail about the various gods, who does what, divisions of labor and so on.

That happens over and over through the book... Ok, here are the elves. Next chapter. Elves get divided into multiple groups. Next chapter. Elvish family trees.

You have to get through all that before anything significant happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that because the book is basically a collection of notes roughly edited together?

[–] jordanlund 2 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reminds a bit of the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring to be honest. That start is slooow

[–] jordanlund 3 points 2 months ago

Now imagine that with no dialog.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think it's all very interesting, but I'll stick to watching videos on the topics or reading wiki pages. I'll let someone else reorganize it into a package actually meant for consumption.

[–] jordanlund 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'm glad I did it, but your average wiki is more readable.