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Can't I just get care? I got a whole grown ass person's life to live, and i can't be an expert in everything.
Are you rich? Then yes. If you're not rich, then you need to suffer and struggle for needing to use valuable resources that could be used on people more deserving; like the wealthy.
It's not that they're hoarding scarce healthcare resources so they're available for the wealthy. They could provide care for everyone, but then the system wouldn't run at the desired profit level.
i didn't say healthcare resources. money is a resource and you must give it to your betters if you want access to affordable healthcare. they are hoarding one resource by denying access to another.
There is also a giant undercurrent of wealth ministry in the American upper classes. Since about the 1960's they've been pushing the idea that God blesses good people with money and punishes bad people by making them poor. It's mixed with the Protestant Work Ethic so they also see poor people as lazy and undeserving.
It's a completely self serving and self fulfilling ideology but it makes them feel good so we all have to suffer because we lost the lottery at birth.
The mentality goes back much farther than the 1960s. In a traditional Christian family the father is the giver of rules and justice. "Wait til your father gets home!" Kids learn that doing what daddy says leads to rewards and disobedience leads to punishment. Follow the rules and you prosper, break them and you suffer. This translates very directly into thinking poor people must be bad people. They must have broken the rules somewhere along the line because look how they're being punished. Wealthy people must have done all the right things in all the right ways, because they're getting rewarded with prosperity and that's what's supposed to happen. f you're conditioned into that mindset, class differences make perfect sense.
More that people wouldn't be reliant on shitty jobs for healthcare. The current state of affairs ensures obedient workers.
You could but half the country voted for the guy who hates poor people
To be fair, neither party was going to pull the trigger on Medicare For All. We're not getting universal healthcare until the working class stops letting wedge issues divide it.
75+ million fascists voted for a fascist.
The Democrats have fought nationalized healthcare tooth and as well
You say that, but when the Dems had a filibuster proof super majority in Congress for a handful of weeks over a decade ago, we got the ACA.
They literally brought the health insurance executives in to write that bill. It was a step forward. But it was also a captive market that was supposed to be subsidized by state and federal governments. So the health insurance companies would just make a profit no matter what.
The ACA barely passed in its original form (219-212) with a bunch of democrats voting against it too. A few aligned themselves with big business however many other democrats voted against the ACA because they believe it didn't go far enough.
The ACA was still the biggest win for the American people on healthcare in decades.
Yeah, there were some pretty conservative Congress people back then. There no way we were gonna get enshrined abortion rights, since many Dems were staunchly pro-life, hence ACA as an alternative.
Hey why did we get the shitty ACA instead of actual universal healthcare if the Dems had power and were committed to getting universal healthcare?
Because there were other people in Congress who talked about death panels and tried to kill it at every turn. Reps hate the populace, and try their best to neuter everything good for the people. Also, some pretty right-leaning Dems were there. Have you paid ANY attention to politics?
Maybe don't tout a half-measure that compromised with literal ghouls as a defining unequivocal win for the party then?
You some champion of missing the point? That's what we got despite all odds.
It's like you people don't understand politics or history. No wonder we elected a fucking fascist into office. JFC
In most countries you can, yes.
You can get whatever you want, but you have a $37,849.45 bill because you used the wrong door.
See, that door you used was operated by Attenya Healathus, not the Hospital, which is operated by Wellmeat (formerly Agape Plalauthis) so your care was not covered. If you had entered through the door (as outlined in your EOB) to the right, it would’ve only been an $800 copay for your splinter removal.
Oh ya, you can get care. And then you fight with insurance about whether or not that was the right doctor to use or if it was really necessary in the first place. But insurance won't talk to the hospital and the hospital won't talk to insurance so you have to talk to each of them in turn while waiting on hold every time. It's a wonderful system.