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You may want to freshen up on your history. Ending slavery was a huge debate right at the beginning. They chose poorly in the end, but not for no reason.
Also, there's a reason the only person you could come up with for your silly comparison was Thomas Jefferson. He was probably one of the most flawed of the founding fathers. Though he's still a significantly better man than Musk on the whole.
George Washington also owned slaves. As did most of your Founding Fathers: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/10/arlen-parsa/evidence-shows-most-47-men-famous-declaration-inde/
The founding principles of the USA were around rights and freedoms for land owning white men only. Everyone else were meant to serve them. Which is more consistent with the principles of Elon Musk than with your principles.
Thomas Jefferson literally owned slaves. Elon Musk offered to buy a horse for an employee to get a handy, while Jefferson raped his slaves. Jefferson was way more "flawed" than Elon Musk is.
I guess the world can be whatever you want when you just make up reality in your head.
Good luck with that.
So you don't believe that George Washington owned slaves? Talk about making up a reality in your head.
You were indoctrinated from a young age to believe in the myth of the Founding Fathers. Everything you heard in school, all the the monuments, the faces printed on your currency all reinforce your beliefs. So I understand that it's not easy to accept that these guys were the Elon Musks and Donald Trumps of their times. But it's not some dead slave masters that guarantee your rights. This mentality results in apathy and taking rights for granted which made the US susceptible to fascism. Mythologizing a false past leads to people wanting to go back to that false past.
I wouldn't go so far as to say MAGA is about wanting to go back to full on slavery, but there is a feeling there that people of certain ethnicities should "know their place". And people certainly "knew their place" when the Founding Fathers were running things didn't they?
You sir, are entirely divorced from reality. It would be best for you to stop replying to the straw man you made up in your head and reconsider this entire exchange.
Which of these isn't real?
You keep saying I'm divorced from reality, but which of these things do you think isn't real?