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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

Rediscovering well-established shit from first principles and a science-illiterate, history-ignorant stance

This is basically the entire process Libertarians go through before realizing they're idiots... They have to re-learn all of the things we've already collectively learned as a society, generations ago. But I guess they just can't believe that we need taxes to fund roads and water infrastructure, until they experience it first hand.

Not even just Libertarians, just conservatives in general these days. Look at Elon Musk and how quick he re-learned why Twitter would "censor" shit.

It's like these people think everything we do is just empty tradition, and until they experience it first hand, they will never believe we need a regulation. When the reality is that many of our regulations are written in blood, and it's idiotic and indefensible to want to go back to those times and do it all again. Simply because the richest dude in the world can't be bothered to read a goddamn book.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

What you're talking about boils down to who to trust. Unfortunately, governments are notorious for abusing such trust. I can't fault anyone who questions the way things are, and why- assuming of course that they are receptive to answers other than "it's a government conspiracy to control us." Not that that's never true, but it's certainly not always true.

[–] Carighan 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Unfortunately, governments are notorious for abusing such trust.

Source? Because that assumes that this is the normality. Which is interesting as a statement, although of course it massively depends on your local government, but not everyone lives in Syria or so.

This always gets carted out, and yet then people always have to point at the same dozen or so big things in hundreds of years of gov history, and never mention the possibly billions of non-abused trust moments in the same space of time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Source?

Edward Snowden immediately springs to mind... You can add in most of the law enforcement agencies in every country with the presence of the internet and cell phones. How many eyes are we up to now?

[–] Carighan 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's not what the question was about? I mean sure, if you stop after that exact word and immediately hit "reply".

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