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Jebus, stop trying to find a single group to blame, it's the entire god damn American public that's at fault.

White, Latino, Blacks, Asians, men, women, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, Republicans, Democrats, progressives, everyone in America knew who Trump and Republicans are and screwed the pooch and the entirety of America.

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[–] JigglySackles 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing in there negates that people need to have personal responsibility. I don't like the democratic platform, I think Harris was mid at best. But I still voted for them with reluctant gusto because the alternatives were incalculably worse. I used my personal accountability and freedom of choice.

The DNC and RNC and the people they are running all suck. Some more than others. And they are completely responsible for their portion of this equation. I don't deny that in the least. But you are framing this like they are the only controlling decision makers in this equation. The DNC or RNC didn't decide my vote. Harris didn't decide my vote. Trump didn't decide my vote. I did. And if you voted, you decided your vote. No one else. People are responsible for their choices.

The rich and powerful do their best to manipulate the unwashed masses, and this time they won. AND they won because people were irresponsible with their decisions and let themselves think that a terrible candidate was better than a mid candidate.

More than one thing is true here and that's ok. The rich and powerful that manipulated the people are at fault. The dems and DNC that ran a weak ass platform are at fault. And the voters that didn't do their due diligence and let themselves be conned are at fault.

Let's move on from the blame and shame game and move on to solutions. Like how can we get ranked choice voting? How can we ensure truthful broadcasting and news coverage? How can we educate voters? How can we remove the money from Washington? How can we change the DNC to run a better platform? How can we get out the authoritarians from both sides?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I will not move on. DNC and dems tried to blame black and Hispanic men before the results were even in.

DNC and dems leadership receives and deserves all of the blame, you are 100% wrong, no offense

[–] JigglySackles 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not offended. I just don't agree with you and think you're ignoring a lot of things here in order to push a singular narrow viewpoint. You're trying to absolve a whole swath of people from their responsibility and I think that's wrong and naive and unfortunately counterproductive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, have fun shouting at people how wrong they are and how enlightened your point of view is, and then when these families’ suffering continues to increase you can remind them how enlightened you are and maybe throw in a few good “I told you so’s

[–] JigglySackles 1 points 1 day ago

Why are you getting so upset over a disagreement? Are you ok? Having a bad day or something?