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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/fuckcars
 

BTW the tank has a better forward view than the truck

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[–] PunnyName 160 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Just gonna keep on posting this

[–] FireRetardant 84 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There really should be legal requirements for sightlines like this for most vehicles on the road.

[–] chonglibloodsport 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s a good temporary fix but the long term solution is to get rid of stroads and get back to proper separation between streets (which are narrow, one way, and walkable) and roads (which have a high speed limit, very few intersections, and no driveways). This would dramatically cut down on the number of encounters between pedestrians and cars, while also making suburbs much more walkable and livable.

Streetcar suburbs, the most desirable neighbourhoods to live in, are illegal to build in most cities!

[–] FireRetardant 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We could do both. I don't see how increasing visibility is a "temporary fix", I see that as a safety improvement regardless of how well designed a street is. Even the safest designed street is even safer by increasing the visibility a driver has. It also just makes driving easier in general.

Edit: it is also an unfortunate reality that people run over their own children or pets in their own driveway and better sightlines can reduce this risk.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

10 meter visibility is fucking insane. How is that not illegal.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because when laws and policies are first made with the assumption people aren't assholes. We literally believed people will do the right thing.

All the addendums were to fix asshole behaviors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah you really gotta design your laws with the assumption that someone will try to abuse it in one way or another. You need to red-team your bills.

[–] ComicalMayhem 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it bothers me a little that it's not in order

[–] PunnyName 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's in an order: height of the front of the vehicle from the ground.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's grill height until the first kid shows up, then it's the distance away from the vehicle at which the kid becomes visible.

[–] PunnyName 6 points 2 weeks ago

Ahh, nice clarification!

[–] FireRetardant 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's only in that order for the first half of the chart then it gets a little jumbled

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not jumbled, it's the distance to seeing the kid after that

[–] PunnyName 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Kinda, yeah. Looks like it's mostly typical household cars, and then 3 examples of taller vehicles with actually better angles of vision.

[–] ComicalMayhem 3 points 2 weeks ago

oh hey it is. dunno how I didn't notice that

[–] ohwhatfollyisman 7 points 2 weeks ago

i know this is anecdotal but i've sat up front in the bajaj re tuktuk. one can almost see the single front wheel from that position -- visibility for that one vehicle is definitely closer than the 2 meters shown in this graphic.