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[–] PugJesus 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Too little, too late. If Biden wanted to salvage his reputation at all, he'd have to do a hell of a lot more than authorizing something Ukraine has been asking for for a long-ass time now.

[–] chiliedogg 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He should transfer like a trillion dollars of military equipment. It's an official act, so he'd be immune from prosecution.

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How many nukes is that, because that's probably what it would take.

[–] chiliedogg 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of proliferation of nukes to an unstable region.

But top-tier stealth fighters and bombers, anti-aircraft systems that can track hundreds of miles into Russia, tanks, a navy, and all the guns, bombs, armor, and electronic warfare equipment they'll accept sounds good.

Hell - give them the classified future-tech shit.

Make the Ukraine the best-equipped military in Europe with the stroke of a pen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

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Why's it unstable?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago

I bet it's lack of nukes.

[–] chiliedogg 3 points 15 hours ago

I'm all for driving out Russia and making Ukraine free. But the reality is that it will have problems with political stability after this war, and with unstable countries veering right these days, the last thing we need is a fragile country with a right-wing nut job next door to its enemy armed with nukes.

Nukes are a great deterrent as long as nobody uses them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but nukes are to prevent war not to be used as a defense.

Ukraine should just never have dismantled their nukes in the first place.

A better method would be to just allow Ukraine into the EU even though "not being at war" is one of the prerequisites.

[–] T00l_shed 5 points 18 hours ago

They did, on the promise that they would be taken care of. The moral of the story is, if you have nukes, you have to keep them now.