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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's kind of amazing how people will continue to vote for people who create policy that is proven to be ineffective at best and directly harmful at worst.

[–] RedditWanderer 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yesterday my buddy who barely works and doesn't do overtime said: "poivrière said he would reduces taxes on overtime, I want that - why wouldn't I vote for him?" I don't blame my buddy, and we avoid discussing politics, but these people are short-sighted and cannot be saved.

[–] rockSlayer 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Talk politics with your buddy. Sounds like they need it.

[–] RedditWanderer 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

He lives out in the sticks, I can't undo 15 years of skipping out on education (he's 38).

I do argue it in moderation, but I prefer to tackle critical thinking in general, and hope he learns to draw his own conclusions. He recently got over that the earth is not flat and that those conspiracies don't hold water. He's even starting to identify content on tiktok that is framed in a certain way.

Maybe we'll get there one day!

Edit: Tbf he's a mechanic, and a good one at that, so flat earth was an easy topic. He managed to understand we can't make oldschool carburators with flat earth physics, and he knows how those work. It's like if I tried to convince him displacement in an engine isn't real, just invented by big oil.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He recently got over that the earth is not flat

jfk, my comrade in crisis, you have the patience of a saint.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would highly recommend watching the documentary Behind the Curve.
It follows a group of flat earthers. It's a really good watch, a bit depressing. Gives you a look at how these people, who aren't always the stupid people we think they are, got to where they are. How their lives and social connections start falling apart because of their belief in a flat earth. And at the end, how some of them realised they were wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If I recall it was mostly simping over a crazy lady with mental illnesses and no mental chillnesses

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really how I recall it, but I watched it during the height of lockdown...so my memory of that time is absolutely going to be full of more holes than a cheese grater....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am in the same boat as you. Or rather, if you're in Ontario, the same sinking ship

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm from Vancouver, but I moved to the UK in November of 2020, watched it around Xmas/new year that winter.

So... different ship, still sinking 😭

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Rough year to make a move, we almost got quarentined in Belfast ourselves

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Gets worse. I came over on a fiancé visa, which meant we had 6 months from approval to get married. It was over a month before I got my passport with visa back after approval, and another month and a half to get everything we had lined up for me to move actually rolling. So by the time I got there we had 2 and a bit months to get married. We had done all the legal stuff to get married before covid, as we had planned to have a civil wedding in April of 2020 after visiting her family in Japan. Obviously that didn't happen. So we're in and out of lockdown. They open up, the town hall knew our situation, and would call us to book a slot pretty much the day after lifting was announced. 3 whole times the dates we picked from the available ended up being the day of or one after locking down again. Finally another lockdown was lifted and we booked again, arranged a party and everything, then locking down again, again our date was the day after. Town hall called us up and said "we have one slot available on this Thursday at 11.15am."

Long story short, if you like wild architecture, highly recommend visiting Woolwich town hall, it's painted all sorts of garish colours inside, but it's a lovely building.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God I would love to see a flat earther realize and admit they’ve been wrong this whole time.

[–] RedditWanderer 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Imo that only feels good when it's someone who actively causes harm with their stupidy and they finally get justice. In this case I consider it to be more sad than anything else; it's a function of his upbringing, not who he is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well I don’t want them to feel bad, I just want to see it so I know that it actually happens and my faith in humanity can be slightly restored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Then I want to see his parents suffer. Show me their deepest regrets and self-flagellation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

If he really hates paying taxes he really should find a country that has low/zero taxes. I will never get over the argument about how people hate taxes and try to argue that we need to get rid of them.