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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I think when she was announced as the candidate, she fired up the base just fine. She was different.

Then she spent the rest of the campaign reassuring people that nothing would change, pissing away that enthusiasm.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

One of the frustrations I had was her solution to the housing problem was to just build more houses and give out some money. Sure great, but what I wanted to hear, and I think many other also wanted to hear, was her talking about corporate hording of housing and what she would do about that situation. But she just ignored it completely and so did Biden.

I think instead if she came out swinging against corporate greed, even if she actually did nothing about it, would have given her more votes.

My one hope out of this is that the massive swing to the right will be countered with more vocal progressives.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

She didn't even really have a plan to build more houses, just some subsidies that wouldn't put a dent in the problem. She should have proposed something ambitious that people could get excited about. The crazy thing is Biden had some big ambitious policies that he actudlly enacted like the Inflation Reduction Act that dwarf anything Kamala campaigned on. It's the opposite of a winning approach that sells the stars and delivers the moon.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

There are plenty of houses. Repossess then from Blackrock and sell them at normal rates

[–] Jumpingspiderman -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Building houses and giving out money WOULD have helped the housing problem. WTF?

[–] GoofSchmoofer 6 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't say it wouldn't have helped. That wasn't the point of the comment.

What I was getting at was that if she wanted to motivate voters, especially more progressive voters, then she needed to go bigger than "build some houses and hand out some money."

What they wanted to hear from their candidate was a bolder and stronger solution like outlawing corporations from owning thousands of homes. Take a firm stand on corporate greed and corporate inflation. But she never talked about that.

[–] PlantJam 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Exactly. "I'm not trump" barely got Biden in when trump was the incumbent with covid running rampant. It didn't work for Clinton in 2016 and unsurprisingly it didn't work for Harris in 2024. The level of incompetence at the DNC really makes me think the actual goal is to prevent our politics/country from shifting to the left at any cost.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 11 points 2 weeks ago

My feeling is that once the DNC starts to acknowledge the progressive ideas then they open the flood gates to challengers to their (limited) power.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 1 points 2 weeks ago

Which is really weird because her professed policies WOULD have changed things. https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/sep/30/kamala-harris-2024-campaign-promises-here-are-her/