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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (26 children)
[–] Linnce 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Boomers are turning this country to shit!"

GenX:

[–] veganpizza69 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wish this would be adjusted for age. Obviously someone who had more time to accumulate wealth will have more wealth. The real question is how much wealth does each generation have at the same age.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then why Silent has so little?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 5 points 1 month ago

I am working off of one bar and have no electricity but this research has been done. I think pew has it, but it might be at ITAR

[–] veganpizza69 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It also matters at the time, as that's a form of power. Guess who can donate seriously to political campaigns, for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well this here GenXer wishes he could have some of that wealth. Unless 'have a mortgage' constitutes wealth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mortgage? No. Equity in a house? Yes.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 month ago

Oh, I see. Yes, I agree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It actually does. The amount paid off at least, since the property is the wealth.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US?

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would say it's roughly equally likely

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same.

Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 month ago

Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it.

Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it.

Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it.

Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide.

Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it.

Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I.

Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do.

[–] veganpizza69 1 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States

You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864

These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

This is why I've been saying that we can't expect the population to simply age out of conservatism. If that worked, it would have happened generations ago. Perhaps as far back as "cooking food over fire is making kids these days weak".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Well that shows a 47-49 split instead of the 42-53 split originally posted for 18-29 men.

Two points vs 11 points. Exit polls are still just polls, prone to some hefty ranges.

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