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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're catching downvotes, but you're not wrong.

The emotional vibe from the left is: "If you're not enough of a leftist according to my unique standards, you're basically the worst person to ever exist. And don't ask me to explain, cuz it's not my job to educate you."

The emotional vibe from the right is: "Welcome home, you clever protagonist you. You knew the truth all along, you just needed the courage to admit you knew it. Hey, while you're here, I'd like to introduce you to a few other things you might not realize you already believe."

The supreme irony is: The right doesn't believe in democracy. They don't believe you can persuade people and get them on your side and move forward with a cohesive vision of governance. Yet they're doing a better job of persuading people than the left is.

[–] DarkCloud 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, and I'm like not glad we're seeing the same thing here... And I think you're gonna cop some more downvotes too. The point I want to make to others is - we're not pointing this out to attack anyone or because we want this perspective to be true. I don't know about you, but I'd prefer to be wrong here.

I'd prefer if everyone was rational and emotions just didn't come into it... But they do!... And I don't have an answer for that other than trying to get people to see they do. To see that's a huge driving factor for a lot of people.

People who get to vote! People who will be voting! You only have to see the emotional logic of what's been going on once! Then you'll start to recognize the landscape when someone say Trump voters are so stupid or How did our country get to this point... Because I see how, now that I see the emotional journey some Trump followers have fallen into.

...and that's not to say all of them. Because I don't think this is true for people like Steve Banon, or Kevin Roberts (head of Project 2025), or Stephen Miller, or even Elon Musk. But for some of his followers - very low level people, this has totally been the journey they've been on, the emotional narrative that's become locked in hard for them.

It's gonna take vision and empathy, and humor to mount any sort of response or gentle reversing of it. To get any sort of deprogramming done... And that climate is a long long LONG way down the road, and may never come!

So this chapter of America's politics becomes another solidifying chapter in the mainstream two party system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DarkCloud 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks I'll check it out!