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[–] donuts 4 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

The former first daughter

Is this really a thing? I know about "First Lady" and I think that's fine, but "first daughter"? That's kinda whack.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It's a commonly used term. The President's family is the First Family. All children are the First Son/First Daughter even if there are several siblings. "First Lady" isn't an official term; it's not mentioned in the Constitution as an actual position but traditionally it is a thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

The first time I heard this term, I was so confused both as a young kid and as a child of immigrants (at that time, English was not my first language).

I couldn't understand why they were first and then when another president came in they were first again.

[–] EmpathicVagrant -1 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Okay so let’s say the president’s grandchild also lives there. Is this the second?

[–] tehevilone 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"First Grandchild" has been used previously (mostly tabloids), but I think the "first" term is usually limited to immediate family

[–] Aqarius 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it still "First Lady" if the marriage is morganatic?

[–] tehevilone 1 points 3 weeks ago

By definition? No.

But if there was a situation like that, I'm willing to bet people would default to using the "first" title anyway out of custom.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nope, First Grandchild (or possibly just ignored). "Second" is for the VP.

Doug Emhoff is currently the "Second Gentleman"

[–] EmpathicVagrant 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like that’s a duh moment. There’s egg in my beard, pardon me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, I feel worse knowing how easily accessible that knowledge was for me. I'm sure your brain was temporarily occupied by useful knowledge

[–] EmpathicVagrant 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I just lack information recall, and prefer interaction via asking humans over a search. It’s definitely something I knew, hence the duh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I was alluding to recall vs. implicit memory, but yeah. I wasn't suggesting that you didn't know the fact, I'm suggesting that perhaps your mind is less filled with the noise of factoids shouting themselves out at you.

I hope I'm correct in this assumption. Everyone deserves to be able to sit in personal silence.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 2 points 4 weeks ago

Oh my misunderstanding sorry if it came across with any sort of tone. You’re not wrong in that at all, always some kind of chaos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Since it has no official meaning anyone can use it as they see fit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

You can learn all about it in the 2004 documentary First Daughter

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

she has a sister who would probably be miffed at being second for some reason

[–] wolfpack86 2 points 4 weeks ago

Bro they got first dogs, too