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[–] JeeBaiChow 136 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless people go out an vote, it won't be suicide. They're just pandering to their base. The Dems need to participate and not go on good feels a la 2016.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

he's not planning to "win" by votes...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, but he's not in power unlike 2016. Yes, we should watch for and be ready to react within the law to fake elector schemes, collaborating with hostile foreign interests, inciting coups and violence, etc but if we do, there's fuck-all he can do about it. Trumpism dies with his political career. In the final stretch, let's reject him with so many votes they can't possibly claim another "stolen" election!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My concern is that Trump is defeated in the election, declared is stolen, and we do react within the law to fight it, but Trump is declared President by the House of Representatives and the Supreme Court anyway. Once Project 2025 starts rolling out as policy, how many of us are then willing to start reacting outside of the new law? Most Germans were not fervent supporters of the Nazi party. They just didn't want to get in trouble with the ruling government. Are you willing to risk your life to fight the fascists? Are you willing to risk the lives of your family? Or do you learn to survive with your head down and not make waves...

Not calling anyone out for anything, but I often have to wonder about how I would react now that it keeps getting closer to reality.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah man that's probably what's going to happen. It Worked for Bush against Gore when margins were close, and the supreme Court is even more stacked in their favor now. This is looking to be a similarly close race. My only question is will libs throw their hands up in defeat and let their last facade of democracy die or fight back in some way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

6 senators and 121 representatives (all Republican) objected to certifying Arizona's results in the hours after the insurrection at the capitol on Jan 6th. He also has 6 justices on the Supreme Court who have already ruled that he's above the law. Unfortunately he doesn't need to be in power if he's being propped up by those who do.