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[–] NatakuNox 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Technical there was room for two on that door

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

Everyone is all "actually it would be impossible" like this bitch did math before telling the guy to go fuck himself.

[–] Zorque 14 points 2 months ago

Only if they both had the knowledge and frame of mind to engi her flotation devices from the life vest rose was wearing. Otherwise the door would have sunk enough for them to freeze to death before rescue came. Provides they knew rescue was coming after a certain time.

Considering one was a socialite, and the other a freelance artist, and both had just almost been killed multiple times... no, I don't think they would have had the foresight to come up with the exact scenario that would have saved them both.

[–] Crackhappy 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] NegativeInf 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Room for 2? Maybe. Buoyancy for 2? No.

[–] rustydomino 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

There is a Mythbusters episode on this. Rose literally and figuratively fucked Jack.

https://youtu.be/IPDxtclZzVU?si=73q9yJst9eaD8_wM

[–] qarbone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't recall the full episode but a few things stood out.

  • it would be cold as hel, so properly strapping a lifevest around some flotsam seems iffy
  • isn't saltwater more buoyant or is that old fishwife's tale? Also idk if that test body of water is salty.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yep, saltwater has more buoyancy, and the higher the salinity, the more buoyant the water.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yep, saltwater has more buoyancy, and the higher the salinity, the more buoyant the water.

[–] Zorque 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only if they had the knowledge and abilities (and time to come up with a plan) of two people whose job it is to come up with exactly this kind of thing.

Sure, it was possible. That doesn't make it probable.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Climb on the door" seems like something within their knowledge and abilities.

[–] Zorque 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I take it you didn't actually watch the mythbusters episode, then. If they both just climbed on the door they would have both died. They would have had to jury-rig a contraption using the life-preserver Rose was wearing to survive... barely.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did they watch the Mythbusters episode?

[–] Zorque 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you'd think she would have tried to get him on the door. What with him being her one true love and all.

[–] Zorque -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And he probably would have said "no, I want you to live" her being his one true love and all.

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay? She still didn't try. You don't seem to be realizing that as an obviously silly flaw in the whole idea that they're each other's soulmates.

[–] Zorque 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did she not? Is that an obviously silly flaw, or just some dumb internet argument keyboard warriors throw out to try and prove how obviously intellectually superior they are?

It's a fucking movie, not a scientific study.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure I'm not showing my intellectual superiority, which I don't have, by saying that maybe she should have tried to let him on the door because she loved him rather than because of some Mythbusters experiment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It would somewhat undermine the core of their narrative being a tragedy within a larger tragedy though.

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 2 months ago

I mean there were other ways of doing that without making it look like she just didn't let him on the door.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cameron tested this. There was room for both on the door, but only in a very specific orientation could they both stay dry. And because she was wearing more clothes than he was, even if Jack makes it out of the water, he's still hypothermic and won't survive.

Edit: It's a NatGeo doc called "Titanic: 25 years later." They're in a pool that's 56 degrees F. You can find it on streaming someplace, but here's a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJph0aIP-U