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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

Hopefully now a better future for Palestinians and Israelis is ahead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

As an Irish person, you can't end terrorism with violence. You just create martyrs to a cause, a cause which looks more and more legitimate the more civilians suffer and die because of said violence. "Kill the rebels" every 20 years did nothing for peace on Ireland for 800 years.

[–] Doorbook 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

the future that you speaking of called "west bank" where "Israeli occupier" put bounty on "indigenous Palestinian" homes for burning their cars or destroying their properties. Where the "Israeli occupier" open carry guns threatening or shooting "indigenous Palestinian" and if the "indigenous Palestinian" fight back in any form "since they don't have guns" they get into a military court, then prison, maybe without a charge, then get raped in prison, based on "Israeli sources"

Pretending this not a case of apartheid genocidal military force is stupid considering the overwhelming evidence that you can find reading a few news article or maybe 5 minutes in Wikipedia.

If you are bored maybe you can watch this episode of Anthony Bourdain "Palestine parts unknown" aired in 2013 and ask yourself if that the past and the current living condition what makes believe this will help in anyway!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_bVSRlaIjw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Sounds like 'Merica!

[–] iAvicenna 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Not really likely. With all these kids and the younger generation terrorised/traumatized by Israel, hopes for a lasting peace is dim. Imagine your home and loved ones being torn into pieces right in front of your eyes by Israel all because of a terrorist attack that you played no part in. Now multiply this by tens of thousands...They will go on to be members or leaders of whatever terrorist/resistance organization follows hamas. It's an endless cycle where only people on the very top take advantage off.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 32 points 10 hours ago

Not while Netanyahu remains in power, he has no incentive to end this.

[–] yesman 39 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not sure the Palestinians will view being ethnically cleansed slightly less vigorously as a brighter future.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago

Who said anything about doing it slightly less? I haven't heard that from the Israelis.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

He was the mastermind behind the Oct. 7th attack. The world is a better place without him.

[–] Orbituary 19 points 11 hours ago

Nobody's arguing that. His death being good and the continued eradication of the Palestinian people by the IDF and Israeli state can coexist.

To be perfectly clear, since this is the internet and people can't seem to have two concepts in their minds at once: The genocide of the Palestinian people needs to stop.

[–] Don_Dickle 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I am probably out of the loop but how does one go about Identifying a Palestinian without shooting everyone?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Point your Tavor at them. If they run, they're Hamas. If they don't, they're well-disciplined Hamas.

[–] Don_Dickle 2 points 8 hours ago

Well I guess I am a Palestinian because if someone pointed a gun at me I would run.

[–] alquicksilver -2 points 10 hours ago

I think IDF also uses option B - explosives. Also very effective, since the only ones who get harmed by IDF weapons are Hamas, so everyone killed/harmed in the blast zone can safely be declared Hamas.

/s

[–] IndustryStandard 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Hamas was created as a reaction to Israel oppressing Palestinians.

The resistance will continue until the oppressors stop oppressing them.

Sinwar was not a charismatic guy who brainwashed everyone into attacking Israel. Israel oppressed Palestinians into violent resistance.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 hours ago

How optimistic.

[–] kokesh 6 points 10 hours ago

Probably not the tens of thousands of murdered Palestinians. Homeless, without any future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Edit: I apologize for my cynicism, but I struggle to be hopeful about the prospects of Israel making peace with its surroundings nations and occupied territories.