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‘I believed things he told me that I now understand to be … lies,’ Dave Hancock says in new Rittenhouse documentary

A former spokesperson for Kyle Rittenhouse says he became disillusioned with his ex-client after learning that he had sent text messages pledging to “fucking murder” shoplifters outside a Chicago pharmacy before later shooting two people to death during racial justice protests in Wisconsin in 2020.

Dave Hancock made that remark about Rittenhouse – for whom he also worked as a security guard – on a Law & Crime documentary that premiered on Friday. The show explored the unsuccessful criminal prosecution of Rittenhouse, who killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

As Hancock told it on The Trials of Kyle Rittenhouse, the 90-minute film’s main subject had “a history of things he was doing prior to [the double slaying], specifically patrolling the street for months with guns and borrowing people’s security uniforms, doing whatever he could to try to get into some kind of a fight”.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations, US legal system! You have encouraged a murderous vigilante!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

“Good guys with guns” as a slogan was always going to turn out this way.

That’s one of the many reasons Americans are such stupid people, they see the world in a “good guy / bad guy” dichotomy, where they are the good guys. And “good guys” and their actions are all based on beliefs and opinions. It’s justification for YOUR atrocities while acting disgusted at others.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you 100%. So many of my fellow Americans (of every political stripe) see the world in that black and white way. There's no nuance to be had here most of the time and it's depressing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

There is nuance to be had, it's just been overwritten by the mainstream media trying to pretend that they're centrist.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You might be shocked to learn that not all Americans are the same. Bigot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I wasn’t describing you, you wouldn’t be so offended.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would still find it inappropriate, actually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bet you do. How inappropriate are school shootings, Mr. Gun Advocate?

Best not think about that, huh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I am not a gun advocate or a mister.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're really not doing a good job at countering their claim...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By pointing out that hating on everybody from a single country is bigotry?

Obviously your opinion is more common, but I disagree.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is my opinion? Please state it. Because I didn't give it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I missed that you were replying to a comment I made to OP, but you are not OP. So I have no idea.

Edit: Oh wait, nevermind. You did share your opinion and it is in line with OP's.

There's no nuance to be had here most of the time and it's depressing.

There is nuance to be had because not everybody is the same.

I understand that there are tons of problems in the US, but hating on an entire culture/people is bigotry no matter who it is aimed towards.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sigh. That is not my opinion about any country, that's my opinion about our species.

"There is no nuance to be had here" means that people don't notice the nuance because they have their own personal agendas. That's not an American problem, that's a global problem.

And good job proving that by deciding you know what my opinion on a subject I never opined on is and deciding that something unrelated was my opinion because of your agenda.

So thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You might need to be a little clearer about that in the future to make it seem less bigoted.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one but you had any trouble with what I said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't really mean anything.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You want me to be clearer but no one else has that need here. So I'd say that means everything.

Unless, of course, you think the world needs to cater to you. Does it? Are you that important?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, aren't you being a jerk.

Personal attacks are not useful.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, aren’t you being a jerk.

That's quite the personal attack.

Personal attacks are not useful.

Literally one sentence after making a personal attack in the exact same post. Amazing. I guess the answer to my question is yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pointing out that someone is being rude is not a personal attack.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But calling someone a jerk is. Which you did:

You're welcome to lie that 'jerk' isn't an insult, but any basic thesaurus will disagree:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/jerk

As will any dictionary:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/jerk#american-jerk-1-noun

I look forward to your lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, aren't you needlessly aggressive.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 months ago

Not as needlessly aggressive as someone who complains about insults and then tells an insult the very next sentence.

It's really incredible how many things now you've accused me of that you can't see you're guilty of yourself, but it is quite amusing.