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[–] ralakus 131 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's the HK G11 and FN P90. Both guns have a magazine where the cartridges aren't in line with the chamber so each cartridge needs to be rotated before it can chambered. HK decided to commune with ancient clockwork gods to learn the secrets of kraut space magic while FN just went with a curved ramp.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Th HK was also designed to use caseless ammo, further complicating the machinery of the weapon...

[–] Sylvartas 28 points 2 months ago

Including cooling because casings actually absorb quite a lot of the heat generated by the propellant iirc (which is then easily removed from the weapon by ejecting the spent casing)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How would caseless ammo work? "Sorry, I can't shoot. I have bullets but my gunpowder tank is empty."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

The propellant is built into the bullet, like a solid-fuel rocket booster.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseless_ammunition

[–] rtxn 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

As far as I know, the only thing that keeps the cartridges moving down the slide in the P90 is the magazine's spring pressure. Are they more likely to jam compared to conventional receivers?

edit: but then, with so few moving parts, a confident smack might unclog the slide. I don't know, I'm European.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For the last few rounds, there are IIRC three tethered dummy cartridges that are pushed by the spring into the slide, so that the last few rounds are properly fed and can't rattle around.

Cartridges aren't gravity fed through the slide or anything. They are pushed through and into the receiver by the pressure of the spring, same as any other gun.

[–] ladicius 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My thoughts exactly.

First solution might look over engineered (in not qualified to decide as I'm german) but probably works in a lot of conditions (running, jumping, sudden movements, shaking, like a gun may experience during use in conflicts) whereas the slide maybe only works when the sun is shining, the birds are singing and the people are picnicking or such.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

The slide works in all conditions afaik. It's not gravity fed or something. It's full of cartridges under presure from the spring, same as any other gun, and rounds are pushed into the receiver one by one. IIRC three dummy rounds are tethered to the end of the spring, which allows the spring to push the last few cartridges into the slide and out of the magazine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

maybe only works when the sun is shining, the birds are singing and the people are picnicking or such.

Perfect for a US mass shooting!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago
[–] Daikusa 13 points 2 months ago

kraut space magic

Kek