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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'm just an XRay tech. But I would expect at least one whole day, for a pair of engineers to get it running again and re-certified. $20-50K for their time, plus missed revenue from the lost day. Best case could total $100K easy. Way more, if the damage is more than cosmetic.

[–] stoly 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're not counting the materials costs. I doubt that medical grade helium is cheap.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

True. I don't know how much that is. But liquid helium shouldn't be "medical grade" really. It's just a coolant for the superconducting magnets, same as any industrial use.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

In my experience the only thing that makes a material professional grade is a paper trail. If something goes wrong and you get sued you want to be able to absolutely prove you didn't cheap out on any of the materials. It adds a lot of cost to keep batches separate and making sure none of the paperwork gets mixed up. Especially if multiple companies are involved in creating and distributing the material. I work in an ISO compliant shop and we have a lot of folders moving around with different orders, it can be a nightmare keeping everything straight when things are busy.

[–] piecat 2 points 2 months ago

"Medical grade" is less pure than what MRIs (research grade).

Medical grade or grade-4.0 is 99% pure and is meant for inhalation. "Research grade" or grade-6 is 99.9999% pure.

https://www.westairgases.com/blog/exploring-the-most-essential-and-underappreciated-uses-for-helium

[–] stoly 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I presume that it has to be certified and probably heavily filtered. It's not going to be the same as what goes into party balloons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Liquid helium is -269 °C. There is no risk of confusing it with what's in balloons.

[–] stoly -1 points 2 months ago

And its a medical setting which means that the products you use will be certified and calibrated in just the right way.

[–] jadedwench 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think I remember something like 10-20k to refill the cooling on an MRI, and that is just topping it off as some is slowly lost. The helium is just used to cool it. Helium is helium, so no such thing as medical vs not. The cost to repair this thing is going to be absurd. They are making better machines now have little to no loss, but I don't think those are super prevalent yet.

[–] piecat 16 points 2 months ago

More than a day. Ramping can take multiple days, then it has to be conpletely recalibrated and shimmed.

Probably need a new magnet, quenching can melt those puppies. Lot of energy stored in that field.