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“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” she said, laughing. “I probably should not have said that. My staff will deal with that later.”

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[–] FuglyDuck 183 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, anyone who hasn't realized that she has 24/7 secret service protection and they're going to fucking shoot anyone whose an intruder to any of their protectees homes...

are kinda dumb.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, this is a pretty logical and understandable consequence of the right's call for political violence. I was pretty surprised the Pelosi intruder was able to do so much, tbh.

Edit: But, yes, people are dumb and disingenuous and will say that they should be able to kill an intruder on their property without question and then turn around and say that Harris' detail should not be allowed to do so.

[–] jordanlund 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pelosi's attacker got as far as he did because Pelosi's protection was with her, and she wasn't home, which let Paul take the brunt of the attack.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One would think they would leave at least one agent with him.

[–] jordanlund 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You'd think, right? Well NOW he does, I bet...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah. It still surprised me, though.

[–] snausagesinablanket 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

are kinda dumb.

Basically anyone in the GOP.

[–] FuglyDuck 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

And the gun control single issue voters- at least a few.

I don’t think most people realize just how un-hesitant a secret service on protection detail will be to shoot an unknown intruder.

Like. That’s not a Harris thing. That’s just their job. Which is why the guy that saw a rifle more or less just started blasting. (Maybe not “just”… I assume they assessed range and stuff. A pistol at 200 yards is almost useless even if you do hit what you’re aiming at.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There is this video where a guy shoots a target with a pistol from 200 yards, freehand, somehow(I timestamed it). It shows that 9mm carries a pretty good amount of penetration power at that range still, surprisingly.

[–] FuglyDuck 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The keltec is not a pistol, it’s a rifle. I’m guessing he has a ten inch barrel? Which gives a lot more velocity for a given cartridge, unless you’re fairly under pressure to start with.

He doesn’t show what a 9mm pistol can do at 200 yards of to balistics gel. Neither does he show the slugs hitting the target.

Which, you can make pistols do a bit better- one simple way is to go to +p cartridges or going to heavier rounds.

Do they carry enough energy to hurt? Sure.

Are they effective? No.

Also not shown is how many takes he took to make this video (and I’m guessing he took way more shots to get those hits than we see. Even if he is a perfect shooter, windage is variable, no one is a perfect shooter.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In the timestamp he is shooting a cz75 at 200 yards. It still penetrates a pretty thick slab of wood. I still wouldn't want to be at the end of it. Plus, there are some rare freaks who can put some rounds on target at that range is all I was trying to add, really.

Wasn't trying to completely invalidate what you were saying by any means, just saying it isn't so cut and dry is all. In most cases, what you said is true for sure.

[–] rayyy 8 points 2 months ago

kinda dumb.

You really think the cult isn't that dumb? Any bets that one of them will try it? Of course MAGA would claim it was her fault in any circumstance.