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[–] Windex007 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm all for dunking on Trump, but you (or anyone here) should read the article.

It didn't trigger because the price was tanking. It triggered because it was going up too fast.

It was on news of Trump saying he wasn't going to sell.

[–] michaelmrose 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's a social media company with very few active users which loses piles of money and takes in a pittance in return. It is worth less than nothing. If he holds it when it goes to zero than he loses all possible profit. Of course he's going to sell.

[–] Windex007 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh for sure. It's effectively been a proxy for election betting since it's inception. Investors know if he wins it's a vehicle for people to buy his favour by adding demand pressure. As long as Trump thinks he might win, he has to keep his position.

[–] michaelmrose 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a basic misunderstanding of reality. It's shitty and useless even for him. If he wins he wont need it.

[–] Windex007 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In a speculative market, which is the reality in which we both exist, share value can absolutely be divorced from a balance sheet. As you've pointed out, that is the case here.

So what is the speculative value to an investor? Why ISN'T it zero?

If you have a theory better than "investors believe he'll use his position as president to increase the value of his own holdings if he wins" I'd be curious to hear it.

Maybe it's by making presidential decisions contingent on "friendly actions" like buying shares if you're a foreign nation or even a domestic interest. Maybe he'll award government communication contracts.

Super interested in an alternative explanation, though.

[–] michaelmrose 1 points 2 months ago

A: I feel like an actual fascist takeover of America would open the door to more direct bribery like wire transfers of large amounts of funds. If you transfer 10M to him he gets the entire 10M not half.

B: I think people buying it either believe in the theory of utility you outlined or are betting on others perception of the utility more so than direct belief in real value as is common with meme stocks. There is also probably a non trivial percentage which have no reasonable theory of value whatsoever which are making an emotional decision as to investing comparatively small amounts of personal monies.

[–] ultranaut 2 points 2 months ago

It's literally just a Mastodon instance that isn't federated.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

on news of Trump saying he wasn't going to sell.

Can the rubes really be that dumb, or was it all just foreign bribe money looking for an excuse to buy in?

[–] Viking_Hippie 6 points 2 months ago
[–] OhmsLawn 1 points 2 months ago

Damn. My bad. Thank you

Edited my original comment with a strike-through.