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Parking for vehicles doesn't have to take up all that space. Multilevel car parks or even underground parking would take care of most of the wasted space.
So just build another second stadium-sized building next to the stadium sized building? (Or below it)
I'm not arguing against that. I'm pointing out the fact that parking infrastructure is so expensive that even on high-value land you get the kind of thing in the picture. Building dense parking next to that particular stadium isn't worth it.
A stadium alone isn't enough to make a parking garage underground worth the cost of building it.
It has to already be surrounded by dense development. A train station right next to it, all that space taken up by parking instead covered in businesses, restaurants, homes, etc. Then the garage is serving way more than just the stadium and the return is massively multiplied.
Except these cities place stadiums and other points of congregation far apart from each other, specifically so there's space for the roads for everyone to drive between them. Putting vertically dense parking next to those various points doesn't solve the wasted space problem, it just makes everything way more expensive.
I used to live near Fenway Park in Boston, and one of the reasons I left was parking. It was a great location for transit and I used that for day to day stuff, but couldn’t entirely give up my car. However, even being willing to pay Boston prices for parking, everything I checked was “except during Fenway events”. I could pay ridiculous money to keep a car in, but would still have to move it for games
No no no. Build it ABOVE the stadium. Make it like a tower that just goes up and up and up...... And the ground level is the stadium.
It would be so ugly, and it would make me laugh so hard.
Except that cars are heavy, so multi-level parking is prohibitively expensive.
That's a good point and, in retrospect, the multilevel is almost better for the comparison as the people are also multilevel.