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Georgia shooting: father of teen suspect charged with second-degree murder
(www.theguardian.com)
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this is not pedantic... this is tone deaf to the epidemic. completely and totally irrelevant.
I clarified the relevance. The point is the weapons that are being used to do these things are common, and basic. They aren't special weapons of war, which are more regulated, more rare.
You just missed the critical thinking.
Ar 15s are common. Fully automatic assault rifles are far less so.
how fast the human killing device works, or its specific classification is irrelevant to the epidemic of human killing devices in the united states.
Absolutely untrue.
The point, is that the most common device to do this with is ubiquitous and easy to access.
Properly defining it, and clarifying what is being used is important to coherently discussing the issue.
only if you have an agenda to make some human killing devices ok and others not ok. i dont believe in such differentiation.
they should all be heavily regulated from your garden pshooter to any single shot hunting device to full on human killing weapons regardless of automatic status.
...but only if we want to be serious about the epidemic of the constant human deaths causes by all these devices, which is clearly almost none of us.
When you discuss the topic of regulation you have to address availability. Ignoring the difference in availability during your discussion highlights lack of attention for the challenge.
Calling all rifles automatic assault weapons is like saying you flew Denver to Newark on the space shuttle. It simply doesn't make sense, and devalues the important points
I think you're missing the point. Bringing in difficult to obtain weapons as part of the conversation muddies the conversation about controlling the currently ubiquitous weapons being used.
As an analogy, let's say someone blows something up and hurts people, using dynamite or homemade explosive using gun powder:
"Anyone who has access to the dynamite and RPGs and C-4 should be held responsible for what's done with it!"
"Wait, there was an RPG or C4? I'm pretty sure outside the military it's pretty difficult to get ahold of either of those. They're already heavily regulated."
"What difference does it make? They're explosives used to blow things up and kill people."
"Right, but, again, those are heavily regulated, while what happened was with dynamite, which is not."
"OH! So it's OKAY since the dynamite is not as regulated!"
"No, it's just a different conversation about RPGs and C4."
"Only if you have an agenda!"
Vs.
"Anyone who purchases dynamite should be responsible for what happens to it, unless they can show they've properly secured it and didn't give access to it to someone they shouldn't."
"Agreed, dynamite and gunpowder explosives are common and not as regulated as they should be."