That's not really a fair comparison though. The ps5 has nowhere near the gpu power of a 4070. The PS5 is equal to like a low-mid range PC. Also console players are paying yearly subscription fees to play multiplayer. Plus you can think of the display as a cost as well. You need a monitor or TV, just like a PC. PC is likely more expensive overall, but not by as much as people think. Plus PC gives you so many perks over consoles. So you're getting a ton more functionality for your money. It's really not a HUGE DEAL to get a console once you factor these things in. Deal, sure. But not a huge deal.

[–] MvPts 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Im a lifelong PC enthusiast, but I recently bought a PS5.

The amount of games you can play instantly with 14€ a month is overwhelming!

I could never build A equivalent Pc for the same price.

I came to realize that I prefer picking up the ps5 controller and get a game started in less than 30~ seconds instead of gaming on my PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand this at all. You can get game pass or something on PC as well. That isn't a console only benefit.

[–] draneceusrex 4 points 2 months ago

I have about 100 games at this point I've gotten for free from Epic alone. Add in a few every year from steam and GOG, yeah not a great argument against PC...

[–] MvPts 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My argument is that gaming on ps5 is cheaper and more convenient than on PC.

I referenced the game pass because games tend to be cheaper on PC in general.

The availability of a game pass equalizes the price for gaming and makes buying games on PS5 obsolete for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But game pass is available on PC too... Are you not understanding that?

I guess I see your argument? I don't really agree though - read my other comments.

[–] MvPts 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think we have a misunderstanding. I will try one last time:

My Argument: Gaming on Ps5 is cheaper and more convenient than gaming on PC.

Why more convenient?

(See my first reply above)

But why cheaper?

Not because of games (a gamepass exists on both pc and ps5)

But because of hardware!

Ps5=~550€

PC (with the same specs)=MB+CPU+GPU+SSD+RAM+Case+Mouse+Keyboard+Gamepad=More than ~550€

Do you disagree?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Eh I'm not sure I really do agree on the cost. Because like you need to add another $400 onto the ps5 cost for 5 years worth of online fees to pay miltiplayer (assuming they don't raise prices in 5 years, which they most definitely will) so now you're up about $1K USD or more. I just used 5 years of fees since i figured new consoles come out every 5ish years. Could even be longer. No one seems to factor this in when describing console prices. Rember, there are NO online fees with PC (unless it's a MMO with a subsciption fee or something but 99% games do not charge for online play.)

Also again, remember that a ps5 is a low-mid range PC. I think you can build a low-mid range PC for $1k or a bit higher, (crazy how expensive it is these days. $1k used to be a high end PC lol.)

Lastly, you'll need to buy another controller for ps5 probably. So that's another $50 or $60 or whatever the hell they cost these days. Maybe even a headset/microphone - not sure if those come with the ps5.

A comparable PC is probably still more expensive, but not really by that much....

Do you see what I'm saying now?

[–] MvPts 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I do see your point.

But Your calculation also proved my point that gaming on a PS5 is indeed cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sure. It's probably like 20% cheaper with much less functionality, like none to little customization/modding, and gives an inferior HDR presentation. But it's cheaper yes. so your point is proven, but it's badly wounded.

[–] Senshi 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Game passes exist for PC as well, and offer even more variety there.

Boot time should never take 30sec on PC as well. But most consoles are actually not much faster in boot and loading times. People tend to compare a PC booting from cold with a console just booting from sleep/hibernation mode.

Boot times on PC however can easily be further optimized, especially when not using Windows for gaming. A gaming Linux distro will be faster by leagues, even in a cold start.

[–] Katana314 3 points 2 months ago

Game Pass owners fired the people who made Hi-Fi Rush, so I wouldn’t expect many bangers from them in the coming months.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I think in the near future, game-passes will cost one AAA game per month. Otherwise, I don't see how it will be sustainable business. Microsoft has already started increasing the price. I hope it doesn't happen though.

[–] MvPts 1 points 2 months ago

I agree.

[–] Squizzy 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People dont deal with more freedom, I know I dont. I have a pc and ps5 and prefer the simplicity of the ps5 setup which is a big selling point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yea fair enough. That's a completely valid point.