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The family of Israeli-American hostage Hersh Goldberg-Polin announced the young man’s death early Sunday, ending a relentless campaign by his parents to rescue him that included meetings with world leaders and an address to the Democratic convention last month.

Goldberg-Polin, 23, was seized by militants at a music festival in southern Israel on Oct. 7. The native of Berkeley, California, lost part of his left arm to a grenade in the attack. In April, a Hamas-issued video showed him, his left hand missing and clearly speaking under duress, sparking new protests in Israel urging the government to do more to secure his and others’ freedom.

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[–] SloppyPuppy 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

6 hostages’ bodies were rescued by IDF. Signs show they were killed in the past week by Hammas in a tunnel.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

What makes you say it's Hamas that killed them? The pattern is usually the IDF killing them, with the exception of the one incident where the IDF killed a hostage taker's family.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So we can reasonably assume they were alive until the IDF ramped things up in both Gaza and the West Bank.

[–] Neon -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah. The same way that the allies are responsible for the jews killed in Bergen-Belsen because the Nazis sped up killing them as the allies approached

/s obviously

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The Nazis didn't have prisoner release on the negotiating table. I'm not saying Hamas' terms were right, but the IDF hardly exhausted all options, or even most options, before they went "oh boy here I go killing again".

Also, the IDF previously killed hostages that were topless waiving white, such is their bloodlust.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Well that's depressing =(

[–] snek 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are getting Sloppy with spelling. Anyway you don't rescue a body.

[–] Neon -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

yes, you do.

This body now gets the funeral it deserves.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not trying to be pedantic, but you recover the body once someone is dead. Rescue specifically means that you're trying to get to a person before further injury or death can occur. Recovering someone's remains is done almost purely out of respect for our need for burials and closure. It's a really solomn and respectful thing that's not to be taken lightly, so recover is absolutely the right word to use here.

Source: I did some search and rescue training as a kid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I mean, you are trying to be pedantic lol but it's justified in this instance.

[–] Neon 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Atheist side in me agrees with you.

But in a lot of religions (islam comes to mind for example) a proper burial is needed to advance to heaven.

So yes, you're rescuing them and their soul.

You can also say that you rescued their bodies from destruction / defiling if you think that the bodies would have been defiled

[–] snek -1 points 2 months ago