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[–] SCB 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk how people don't remember this, but there was a time when Fox News was basically the same thing as CNN, just with more (educated) Conservatives providing commentary.

This was back when like, Hardball was the big political talk show, before the whole doom-spiral.

These are the executives bemoaning what Fox has become. That shit mostly started in the aftermath of 9/11.

[–] Zombiepirate 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was designed to be a mouthpiece for the GOP.

Propaganda wasn't an afterthought; it's the reason for the network's existence.

[–] SCB 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and the GOP at the time was considerably more "normal," which, again, is the entire reason for the disconnect these former execs feel. People you and I don't like also have preferences.

I've been arguing against Fox News takes since like '98 man, I'm well aware of what Fox News was and what it turned into.

It's night and day.

[–] Zombiepirate 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, they have certainly accelerated the crazy train. The feedback loop between viewers and hosts was put on full display when the Dominion case emails were released.

My only point is that this isn't some anomaly; this is the original vision playing out to its logical end.

[–] SCB 17 points 1 year ago

It's the Talk Radio problem all over again. The more extreme the voice, the more it clamors for attendance, leading to such a doom spiral.

I am certain there are many "Shep Smith" like people at Fox back in the day who are pretty horrified at what they've become, and I also agree they were complicit in Fox walking down this path.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crossfire played a huge part in popularizing the dogmatic Fox Anchor personality.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 year ago

Crossfire was a CNN show.