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[–] dohpaz42 152 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I understand why the employee is not pressing charges. It’s a matter of their and their family’s safety. Ok.

But what I don’t understand is that if using the cemetery for political purposes is against the law, and there are obviously many photos released and used in Trump’s campaign material, why not use that evidence to charge Trump¥, the campaign, and the photographers?

¥ Sadly even if they tried to arrest Trump, I’m sure it wouldn’t stick anyway because apparently he gets away with everything.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is a problem with liberals. Conservatives are playing to win, even if it means playing dirty. Liberals are playing to play. That is why Conservatives are winning and getting more powerful even while being openly wrong, weird, and stupid.

[–] BetaBlake 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But they aren't winning, and aren't becoming more powerful. The GOP is weaker and more fractured than it's ever been in living memory.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They have the supreme court, they have taken away abortion rights. Jan 6th happened which was an attempted coup and very few were charged, some that were, were even released. Trump is openly talking about election fraud for the upcoming election. Trump is talking about becoming a Dictator. That is just the big stuff.

Yeah, they aren't that popular, but that doesn't seem to be stopping them.

In any sane society these actions would be lead Trump to be tried for Treason and MAGA to be labeled as a terrorist organization.

[–] d00phy 12 points 2 months ago

They also have a very good chance at taking both houses of Congress. I believe either half or more than half of the state Governors are Rep, and same for state houses. They’re not at all weak.

[–] xenoclast 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why not arrest ANY of the 50 or so people. Just start arresting the poorest person in the photo (money means no consequences) and then every day the next and so on.

I think it would super interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

any of them would get protection from trump and could still make the employee a target for hate

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with making the employee a target.

But Trump is known for not protecting those who stand up for him. The low level staffers would be in trouble and their god-king won’t bail them out. He only cares about himself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

my bad I forgot he was an a-hole lol

[–] exanime 17 points 2 months ago

Because Trump is rich and influential and it's long past the time we should stop pretending the law actually applies to everyone.

Laws and rules are for regular people, if you are rich or famous or influential enough, laws do not apply to you

[–] ItDoBeHowItDoBe 6 points 2 months ago

Law prohibits political campaign or election related activities at the cemetery, not photography in general. If their photographs are not used by their campaign officials and trump can reasonably articulate a reason to have been there aside from campaigning, which would be pretty easy, it does not seem there would be any grounds against him. It seems the news reporting on the incident is the primary coverage of the visit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In order to press charges she has to announce her name publicly. And if she does that, MAGAts will come after her and her family. May even try to kill her. Trump’s followers are not our best.

[–] brygphilomena 6 points 2 months ago

I've seen several cases where on the docket and in court records its an anonymous victim, since charges aren't filed by the individual when it comes to criminal matters. It's the state or federal government that is levying the charges and the victim is largely a witness.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't know how any of this works, but I assume some person who "has been harmed" by the actions needs to press charges. I would assume that could potentially be any American. Wouldn't it be great if Harris did it? The former prosecutor/DA filing charges against the criminal opponent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In most common law jurisdictions, the executive branch doesn't require even a victim, they merely need the elements of the criminal offence satisfied.

Not sure about the US, likely they need her to strengthen the case and won't bother without her witness testimony.

[–] barsquid 4 points 2 months ago

I don't think that's right. In cases where the person pressing charges makes the difference between filing suit or not, it's like because their testimony is crucial to the case. The government doesn't need it, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bro if he didn't get any consequences from his FELONIES, you think him pushing someone is gonna get him punished?

They know he will get away with everything unless he loses in November.

[–] dohpaz42 1 points 2 months ago

At some point a line will get drawn. It’s a question of when and where.

Of all his crimes, Al Capone was convicted on tax evasion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

why do you use the yen sign for the asterisk lol

[–] dohpaz42 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There wasn’t a particular reason; it’s what I decided to go with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

somehow that makes it worse