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Do the advantages of deleting one's entire Reddit history outweigh the disadvantages?

I have previously nuked my first Reddit account because it felt satisfactory to be completely detached from a platform one considers unethical/bad. Though, I have garnered quite some history on a second account—because Duty Calls*, of course—and I'm considering doing the same.

However, I don't want to do it impulsively. I think I might be blind to some disadvantages. What do you think?

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[–] breadsmasher 42 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Deleting posts is basically pointless - reddit keeps everything you delete, it just is no longer shown to front end, regular users.

If you are concerned of your posts and comments being used to feed openai, its way too late

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That's illegal within the EU.

The GDPR also gives "right to be forgotten".

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

Correct.

But nobody is enforcing compliance.

So they can just keep it on American servers and sell it to OpenAI or share it with the US government.

Also, there are a lot of bots copying everything on reddit and other sites. Even if reddit would comply with GDPR, these bots cannot be traced and cannot be fined.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Absolutely true.

I don't believe for a second that Google and Reddit give a shit, though. Untilbwe see a company destroyed for violating the GDPR, they'll just consider the risk of fines part of the cost of doing business.

[–] breadsmasher 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mostly - it gets messy with content being posted though. They absolutely should be deleting all personal information about you.

I am however unsure how this applies to posts and comments which don’t contain personal information.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

@breadsmasher @lnxtx Every post from any person contains personal information. At least the fact, that the person has posted that specific sentence or maybe only shared a link at that time.

[–] breadsmasher 2 points 4 months ago

Sure, not disagreeing. Its a shame its barely enforced

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And why should an American cooperation care about that? They can basically do whatever they want without ever having to fear any consequences.

Remember, when they simply restored accounts, posts, and subreddits that were deleted during the API protests?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It still helps damage reddit's commercialisation of users because historic posts have gaps or disappear for new users. Editing posts and replacing with gobbledygook is probably more effective.

Also, its not clear reddit is able to retain deleted posts. They have a vast live site to maintain - why would they ever have been focused on having an immutable back up of all deleted posts? They may have snapshots to restore after short term issues but it does not follow that they keep snapshots going back in time. Perhaps they do or perhaps like many companies they do the bare minimum in favour of keep costs down?

I personally think its worth using sites that edit your posts and replace with garbage, as that is harder to separate out from true edits and helps pollute the data set for AI companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, its not clear reddit is able to retain deleted posts. They have a vast live site to maintain - why would they ever have been focused on having an immutable back up of all deleted posts?

They do, though. Last year when there was a small exodus to Lemmy, lots of people deleted their history. Which reddit then recovered.

The truth is, marking a comment or post as deleted, literally only takes one bit to store. deleted=1 or 0. However, if you go back and overwrite all your comments (not with an identical message, because that is easy to detect) - that would take more effort to recover.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

People deleted the content they had access to. As protesting subreddits went back to being public, the content they hadn’t been able to delete became visible again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You post on Lemmy aren't safe from OpenAI either. They could just scrape entire Fediverse easily than Reddit.

[–] AbouBenAdhem 6 points 4 months ago

The difference is that OpenAI’s competitors and open-source projects can also use fediverse posts.

[–] Iceblade02 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's better is to edit every comment and keep your acc active so they can't roll it back.

I asked through support whether they keep previous versions of edited comments and posts, which they claimed that they don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I just mass-edited my Reddit account with https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite. Powerful features and free.