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‘I was not voting before, now I am’: gen Z voters on what they think of Kamala Harris
(www.theguardian.com)
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I mean... Even when we do have a primary, most of the left just stays home. It doesn't help that most people just can't be bothered.
I don't know that that's true. It's kinda hard to find data on progressive vs. centrist turnout, but generally, turnout for primaries has been going up, not down, and it was definitely young progressive voters that gave Obama the victory over Clinton.
Your own link shows 28.5% of eligible voters, most would imply more than half, so I don't know what your argument is. It doesn't matter if it's highest it's ever been if it's still pathetic.
Yeah, but, "most of the left stays home," also implies centrists or conservatives vote in higher numbers than the left, which doesn't appear to be true. Voters are more invovled in primaries than they have been in years, and the left and right seem to be voting at about the same level. Like, yeah, voter apathy is really bad in this country, but it seems pretty bipartisan, so it's not a left-specific problem.
It's also fairly unfair to compare total numbers vs an assessment of the actually competitive states. Everyone knows that solidly blue and red states have little say your side is either already going to win or can't possibly win at the national level. It's inherently harder even if important to get people to invest in the smaller races.
I don't think it would imply that and it wasn't my intent. My complaint is with the left, I couldn't give a shit how many of the other side votes in their primary. The level of self righteous moral purity is ungodly high on the left, and yet even though 75% of our party is constantly whining about the candidate of one political position in the party only ~30% are actually voting in the primary. It's getting old. We can have any fucking candidate we want in most primaries, we just have to show the fuck up when it matters.
In Bernie's first presidential campaign he did much better in caucuses, because he was good at political maneuvering, but the states with a strait up vote, he lost most of them. That says everything you need to know about the left wing of the party, all talk, low energy action.