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You were doing okay until the genocide thing. I doubt the "genocide" even enters into it for most independent voters.
I think it's foolish to chase "independent" voters (which I assume you're saying to mean the mythical "moderate"). What Biden is fighting is apathy.
Joe Biden being unwilling to call out the genocide in Palestine absolutely drives apathy among voters who feel disenfranchised by the current two party system.
If the Democrats truly cared about winning elections, they'd court the left and drive voter engagement. If we drive up turnout, the Democrats win every time, even with the ridiculously broken electoral college.
Just who the fuck do you thing you are using history and logic?
None of those apathetic voters ever have an answer to how Trump will be better for the Palestinians.
Blaming the voters for being apathetic when the party hasn't given them a reason to be excited sure does seem to be in vogue among Democrat apologists.
it's bizarre that they expect leftist to vote along with them when they've done nothing to earn leftist voters; lets see if the dnc has learned this lesson in their next presidential pic.
glenn beck made the single strongest case i've heard for kamala this morning: of all the electeds in DC, she was ONE of EIGHTEEN signatories on the green new deal.
i really didn't think i'd come around on her, but glenn is who sold me on obama too so it makes sense.
More likely they'll just pick some former swing state governor to be Kamala's veep.
Those apathetic voters that would vote for donnie or not vote at all, and all over the "genocide joe" thing, should give pause and ask themselves how they are helping the situation by assisting donnie.
As for the independent voters, I'm talking about the low-information voters for the most part in this instance. The kind of people deeply influenced by optics. Optics like donnie getting nearly killed, then raising his fist for a photo op. Or optics like #BidenSoOld, Biden cancelling a speech for Covid, Biden bombing at a debate. I'm not even sure most of these people know or remember that Gaza is happening. Just like when Biden was going on about NATO. Again, it's doubtful these low-information voters care much about NATO. I doubt even high-information voters place NATO as their number one concern...
(In other cases, when I say independent voters, I am usually referring to what the Republicans typically call themselves when they don't want to admit they are voting for tools like Bush and donnie)
I have literally NEVER, not once, ever anywhere, seen someone on the left who dislikes joes stance on genocide, decide the only logical thing to do is vote Biden. That's a fucking joke and you're an idiot for believing anyone who says that is actually left. Anyone who says that is playing pretend on the internet, likely for money.
Um, what? What do they propose, then? Throwing their vote away so that donnie gets in power? How is that helping?
Yes. That's it. They don't want to vote for genocide, and wrongly believe that choosing inaction absolves them of responsibility.
Voting is inaction.
Action is action.
Well, they are not entirely inactive - they'll tell you, at every opportunity, just how MORALLY SUPERIOR they are to "centrists", "liberals", etc...