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I did not have 'Pelosi takes on the gerontocracy' on my 2024 bingo card

One Pelosi ally said it was possible she would press Biden publicly to give up his spot atop the Democratic ticket.

“The speaker does not want to call on him to resign, but she will do everything in her power to make sure it happens,” this person said, referring to Biden quitting the race.

[Edit] changed the title to Politico's after reading this community's sidebar

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (4 children)

So anyway, I found myself aligned with Nancy Pelosi and against Bernie Sanders and AOC

And I figured hey you know there’s nothing there that I might need to re examine, I’m sure me and Pelosi are the ones that have it figured out here

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (4 children)

AOC and Bernie know that if they don't toe the line, they'll be blamed for the democrats losing (they'll be blamed anyway).

They did the best they could to get the democrats to adopt winning policies, but they failed.

[–] foggy 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bernie doesn't give a fuck. (Who blames him for what)

He does nothing for image. Everything for principle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bernie does do things for image for the purpose of principle though - he will happily fall in line publicly over politics if it gives him political clout to make workers' lives better.

[–] foggy 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds a lot like doing something on principle to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I don't disagree, but I did want to highlight that while not everything he does directly helps working people he's always focused on that goal. Other politicians may want to be loved but Bernie just does it for the end goal.

(You can find some hilarious interviews with him about merchandising things like Birdie and the Mittens meme - he acknowledges that it's useful for fund raising and visibility but he really has no patience for it)

[–] Linkerbaan 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Just like how nobody blamed Bernie and the left in 2016 when he fell in line after they told him

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, they said hey you should forgive hundreds of billions of dollars worth of student loans, spend a trillion dollars on climate change, boost unions and domestic manufacturing and reduce income inequality for the first time in God knows how long, all while digging out from Covid better than literally any other first world country

And the Democrats said naw if we did all that I am sure the media would just fail to mention that any of it happened because they are partisan corporate hacks, leaving people with some kind of impression that Biden was an unimpressive nothingburger, so why… uh, wait…

Wait they didn’t do any of that, did they? Help me out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, this whole campaign has really highlighted that it's Biden's stubbornness and ego that's the problem. People are tiptoeing around the issue because in the end grandpa stopping driving is his decision and if you come at him hard he's likely to dig his heels in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Except the state can take Grandpa's license away. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I honestly feel that AOC and Bernie are just desperately trying to avoid a Trump dictatorship and that means voting Democrat no matter what. The Democratic candidate at this time is Joe Biden. They'll do what they have to to avoid that fate but it doesn't mean they've given up on what makes them great.

Edit: this is why https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/biden-endorse-harris-vp-aoc-bernie-sanders.html

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 0 points 4 months ago

Ours is not to wonder why. Ours is but to vote and die.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. I'm a leftist, not someone that blindly follows charismatic politicians. And Im not gonna oppose something just because a politician I dislike advocates for it. Policy>personality

I also disagree with Pelosi's reasoning for wanting Biden to drop out. She just thinks he can't win. I think Joe should step aside since he enacts genocidal policies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Por que no los dos?