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[–] [email protected] 123 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I too am absolutely pumped to live in a world where human artistry is all but confined to the wealthy, and we all get AI generated pseudo-art instead! Woot woot!

[–] chonglibloodsport 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t that how it was for the majority of history? Minus the AI crap anyway.

Still, the average person has incredible opportunity to see some of the very best art, as long as they live in or near a big city. Admission to most galleries or museums is not expensive at all.

[–] Droggelbecher 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that the average working class person doesn't have a lot of time where they also have energy and don't have to do chores. In that state, most people aren't receptive for learning and enjoying culture. And it's very understandable.

[–] chonglibloodsport -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think that has more to do with technology and the attention economy than anything else. Working class people used to read books a lot more than they do now. Then along came TV (aka the idiot box) to soak up those free hours. Now it’s all Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I doubt working class people spent their evenings reading high-brow books. Magazines, cheaper novels, things that don't demand much mental investment after 8+ hours of work have drained your energy and left a little for chores.

Families that could live on a single income may have had more time, but if that has reduced, it may well because a single income often can't sustain a whole family any more.

TV didn't magically create a need for mindless entertainment. It may have supplanted other recreational activities, but it couldn't replace e.g. meeting up for a drink and a nice chat unless the convenience of it outweighed the loss of social activity.

[–] chonglibloodsport 3 points 4 months ago

They might not have read Joyce but I can guarantee they were reading Steinbeck, Hemingway, Poe, Whitman, Dickinson, Twain, Vonnegut, Lee, Salinger, Frost.

All the novels and poetry in the American canon, the stuff high school students groan about having to read today, were once bestsellers in their day. You don’t get to be a bestseller back then by selling only to millionaires.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

No, (though depends on your definition of art) but there's a reason that public buildings (Churches, for instance) were often the best decorated with murals, frescoes, and statues.

Also within local communities there would be musicians and artisans who were known for their work.

That said, art did become more privatised once the 17th century rolled around. Obviously varied by geographic regions, etc. (e.g. Artist items (amongst other items of worth) were deliberately shared out by many American Indian groups in potlatches as acts of redistribution.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Nightmare scenario