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[–] rsuri 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The crazy thing is everything up to this point was so much better. They'd show biden waiving at "nobody" and then they'd zoom out and there's someone standing there. Or he'd say "president of Mexico" when he meant to say "president of Egypt". But then last night was like nonstop fail. It's the perfect nightmare scenario because now everyone can say "You shoulda seen it sooner!" but really, we couldn't.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Sounds like an excuse.

What I mean is: it sounds like his handlers kept making excuses and you kept accepting them because you wanted to believe them.

I know, I'm frustrated too. I dismissed the Alex Jones Fox News crowd because they were known liars, they'd lied to us for decades, and this really did seem like standard conservative projection to deflect from their candidates' obvious mental issues.

Hate to admit it. But the conservatives were right and we were wrong.

[–] mhague 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't see how what conservatives say has to do with reality.

Biden has been "senile" and "too old" for years now, during which time we've had a functioning Biden administration.

The Trump admin was limp, chronically understaffed, weak, ineffectual. That's what they're pretending is better than Biden. Conservatives don't even care about senility so if you hear them rag on Biden and think they're right, you're not understanding what they're really saying.

[–] DogWater 10 points 6 months ago

Don't make the mistake of thinking the 1st trump term will be like the second if he wins. This time people are prepared and have a playbook to do as much damage as possible. Google project 2025.

[–] justaderp 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We've seen this before with Reagan. We took the military industrial complex to the next level. If history repeats with banks deregulated as they are now... It won't matter one fucking bit, really. It's not very important whom they choose to front their cons. No President can save us, or would want to. Our oppressor is not our savior.

[–] brucethemoose 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, plenty of nonpartisan and even liberal people were yelling this too. I had no illusions of Biden's age.

America is not just two internet echo chambers... even if it feels like it right now.