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[–] [email protected] 196 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

You had one person trying to listen, keep track and respond earnestly to each point of a serial liar, and struggling to do it.

The serial liar would make one statement making light of the last thing that was said and then confidently go off on whatever they wanted.

We've seen before that Americans want a confident but evil self-serving idiot over a tepid but smart, compassionate leader.

Next morning Edit: My one hope is that the news of Grants Pass, EPA SCOTUS decisions show the real consequences of electing Trump.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

a tepid but smart, compassionate leader.

Is that really what you saw on that stage tonight? I saw a guy who lost his car keys because he was so angry at those kids on his lawn. Whether or not the narrative on Biden is fair, he just totally legitimized it.

I get what you're saying about debating with Trump, or any Republican really. Debate is a lot easier when you care nothing for the truth. Overcoming that is the Democratic candidate's job. That's what Biden signed up to do. That's what the Democrats picked him to do. A candidate who can't function in that situation has no business on that stage. There are a great many Democrats who could have wiped the floor with Trump.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, he is smart, and showed great intelligence, but in this instance severely underperformed in his ability to communicate clearly, like someone having a panic attack at a presentation. If you read a transcript of the debate it would be clear who is a leader and who is a clown. The raspy cold voice compounded things but those are all superficial elements, not on the substance (which Trump had nothing but lies and snide remarks).

I agree this isn't what any Democrat including Biden wanted in the debate and AOC, Sanders would be way better orators. I'm saying regardless of tonight, Americans have picked before a charismatic comic in Reagan over a tepid, but smart, compassionate leader like Carter.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

See also: Bush vs Gore (though Republicans still had to cheat to win) and Bush vs Kerry. One candidate makes intelligent, considered points while the other throws out cheap bullshit soundbites. The bullshit soundbites guy wins the election every time.

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