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[–] friend_of_satan 43 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Except male genital mutilation, aka circumcision. (Please don't take this as me saying FGM and MGM are equally bad. FGM is much, much worse.)

[–] Madrigal 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are other forms of MGM too. Fortunately most of them are rare these days. Castration, subincision, penectomy.

And then there’s intersex people. That are routinely subject to “corrective surgery” in infancy. As adults they tend to be firmly of the opinion they should have been left alone and that the surgeries were harmful.

IMO bodily integrity and autonomy is a fundamental human right that should be absolutely respected for every human being.

[–] friend_of_satan 10 points 5 months ago
[–] TheBananaKing 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are five grades of FGM; MGM is equivalent to hoodectomy, which is grade III.

The worst FGM is much, much worse that MGM, but the least-worst FGM is much less-worse than MGM.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

where do you cite this five grade model?

the world health organization is not quite in line with you here (CW, hopefully obvious explicit discussion of mutilation) thanks !

[–] TheBananaKing 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hm, it's been a while since I've been active in this space, I'm quoting from memory. I'll look up some stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, that's only because the Bible says it's a thing that should be done (apparently)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Hebrew Bible maybe, but it's pretty clearly outlined by Paul in the new testament that non-jewish Catholics definitely don't have to follow Jewish custom (and don't have to be circumcised in particular)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

True. It's been a while, heh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You're good, I just think it's worth saying out loud. There's probably plenty of parents who do think the Bible says it, even though it doesn't