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[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

To my knowledge, we also have zero evidence that they didn't exist. Nor have we ever observed matter/energy appearing out of ~~thin air~~ vaccuum, so it seems unlikely to me.

[–] Downcount 25 points 4 months ago (4 children)

And to my knowledge there can't be a before time.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Oh yeah? Then where did they film The Land Before Time? Checkmat

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I like how there are at least three things that are immediately recognizable as wrong with this question.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Well, everyone has a skill I guess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

those are some egregious claims to not have a source.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Can time really exist if there was no frame of reference to measure it? We can only detect it by motion or entropy. It's the only way of "time". So if there was some point where there was nothing that moved, then time wouldn't exist.

For that matter, there's no way of measuring if time is even consistent. If it were constantly speeding way up, or slowing way down, we'd have no way of knowing.

Time is just a figment of our imagination so we can keep track of movement. Just like magenta isn't a real color.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Darn. I fold.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Kompromat!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, yes and no. Time is a concept derived from a change in state. There is no “real” time. If the universe before the Big Bang existed in a static state, then the concept of time itself becomes meaningless. So in that case, it would be “before time” in a sense

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

The state cannot have been absolutely static - if it was, the big bang would not have occurred, and the same stasis would be existing now, unchanged.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Duh, spacetime is a casual filter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Time is an illusion

It's just a human made concept to create a reference to measure shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Time is change, and exists whether or not we measure it.

[–] efstajas 0 points 4 months ago

Absolutely not, time doesn't give a shit about humans, and would happily pass without any conscious observer at all anywhere in the universe.

[–] spaceguy5234 18 points 4 months ago

Well, we haven't directly observed matter appearing spontaneously in a vacuum, but we have evidence to support it does happen