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... God damn it, people. This accomplishes nothing and just makes people angry at you, dipshits.
Much like my witnessing PETA protestors screaming in the face of little children with a bullhorn because they happened to be waiting in line for the circus. I can support removing elephants from a life of circus performing, but I absolutely cannot stand PETA (for this and other reasons like euthanizing people's pets).
Your PETA horror story didn't happen lmao
I don't know if the euthanasia stories are true, but I witnessed the screaming into bullhorns personally as I was also waiting in the line with my kid.
Pretty much every shocking PETA truth is either taken out of context or completely fabricated. They’ve done one thing which I disapprove of, which is the weird “milk makes autism worse” advert they ran. other than that they’re fine imo.
This has been the most effective form of climate protest by far. When they block oil terminals or spray paint car dealerships no one will cover it making the protest pretty much useless, like a guy set himself on fire to protest climate change and that was barely covered. The stuff they do doesn't actually cause any damage but the media actually covers it because they can spin it as rage bait against the protestors but at least it gets coverage.
Coverage, yes. But the result of that coverage? Making people not want to support climate activism, and maybe even have a negative reaction to anything climate positive. And how effective is that coverage in helping the climate? What changes in climate related policy can be traced back to any of these actions?
Yeah this is totally selfish and just brings attention to them while harming their supposed cause.
It spreads awerness, no other climate protest has even managed that. Some people obviously fall for the news rage bait but if even 1% of people gain any awerness of climate change it will have been the most effective form of climate protests by far purely on what reach it has had.
I would disagree. Like Greta Thunberg , did it right. peaceful protest and didn't vandalize.
She spoke in front the of UN. These guys are doing it wrong.
And there are thousands of people that express their hatred for her and the movement she stamds for, even threatening to rape and kill her.
In Germany there are regular street blockades and Airport disruptions and the average response to these things was people wanting to run them over with their cars.
There will always be haters, but I'm not sure what point your bringing up?
I'm just saying there are more peaceful way to do things like this, without vandalizing.
And what did that accomplish?
What did the Stonehenge vandals accomplish?
Awareness and debate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ She did inspire the youth
Hard disagree. Everyone in the UK HATES these people. To the point at which the government has been able to pass new laws limiting right to protest.
Who made you ambassador for the UK? I'm in the UK and I don't hate them.
The whole point of protest is to cause disruption, you're not meant to like it, that's the point!
Yeah it can cause disruption, I agree. However it should preferably cause disruption for the people you have a problem with. Or simply by using public space which is equally theirs.
Making headlines by defacing historical monuments and art isn't really getting the public on their side. I'm left wing, most of the people I engage with are, and I've yet to meet someone in real life who thinks what Just stop oil are doing is helpful
Do you remember when their protest outside the HQ of BP made the news? Me neither, but I'm sure the high rollers on their 6, 7, 8 figure salaries felt terribly inconvenienced!
I don't have to agree with their methods or their ideology to recognise their right to protest. We're talking about dyed cornstarch here, it's not like they blew the thing up.
If the high rollers didn't feel inconveniences then their protest wasn't very effective! If they can effectively inconvenience the public to the extent that the government can pass new authoritarian anti-protest laws, but they failed to actually inconvenience the high rollers then what the hell are they doing and isn't this opinion that they're not really benefiting the movement actually quite an accurate one?
And I don't have to not recognize their right to protest while also recognizing that their protest, while bringing attention to the cause that won't move the needle, is also bringing attention to the cause that will also set their purported goals back.
The UK also has a weird hatred of trans people, I'd rather not get my opinions from there. Also the UK has been passing police state shit long before this.
Only if you believe what the conservatives want you to believe, and only if you sign up for their culture war narrative
The Labor party runs the same anti trans stuff as the Tories.
The fact that you can't even spell Labour correctly says enough about the quality of your research on their policies
The UK has become completely irrelevant on the global stage be grateful I capitalised the names. Like your economy is being out paced by fucking Poland, shame is the proper response there, not national pride.
Irrelevant to the conversation. Nice try russian troll
Nice try, here in Estonia we hate Russians as much as the French hate anyone not French.
Like if you wanna defend your failing country that has a two party system worse than the US go for it but at least try facts instead of national pride, it doesn't work if your country is being out paced by eastern Europe.
Nice try troll
You'll find that whilst far from perfect, that the UK is one of the most accepting and diverse populations on earth.
Literally never heard that phrase before so I highly doubt it
I'm not taking the bait. There's obviously many worse countries than the UK to be trans in and like I've already said, the UK isn't perfect but it wouldn't be as diverse as it is without being as accepting as it is.
You can reply to this if you want, but don't expect me to reply in turn, this is my final statement on the matter.
If you wanna measure your country against those that outright kills trans people then sure, there are worse ones but in Europe, most North America and most of Asia the UK is one of the worst places to be trans. Also both of your relevant politician parties have the same policy there.
Not everyone in the U.K. is a transphobe. Are you actually a moron?
but he identifies as very smart aktuly.
Yes, I said literally every person in the UK wants to kill every trans person. That's definitely what I said.
Obviously sarcasm but I feel like I need to mention it.
Complete rubbish. A close friend is trans and your ramblings do not match with reality
I'm sure you have some black friends too
Troll
No, this only further entrenches the entrenched.
Nah I'm into it
Speak for yourself. This made me support them.