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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Conscription is the only option many governments have (including possibly, one a draft-dodging Trump-led presidency is considering). The rest of the world is not like Finland. If conscription becomes the norm, anti-establishment actions will become more commonplace.

[–] Allonzee 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

As an American, I'm all for forced conscription.

Only because it forces people who otherwise try to be "not political, teehee" and pretend our corrupt, captured, failing nation is fine to wake the fuck up and revolt.

For the record, in normal times, I think there should be mandatory national service for a year, but I don't agree a year of service has to be or even should be military. There should be a strong peace core that builds housing for the homeless, provides community services, etc.

I think it would give the US what it most needs and lacks almost entirely: empathy. Especially for our worst off, most suffering citizens.

[–] FuglyDuck 19 points 6 months ago

There should be a strong peace core that builds housing for the homeless, provides community services, etc.

I wonder if you could work out a system where you could work it off in hospitals cleaning bed pans, helping nurses/doctors/patients with things that don't require the doctors and nurses (like bringing blankets and stuff;); and in return getting 2 years free towards becoming a doctor/nurse.

Do the same with lawschool and helping public defenders with... stuff. or other fields that benefit society, too. If none of that really interests you... then building housing, cleaning parks, and, er, other stuff.

reward: two years tuition.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 5 points 6 months ago

Skin in the game has a way of bringing reality into sharp relief, don't you find?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I was thinking something along those lines would be cool too, pretty much anything you could volunteer for would be a great start.

[–] iopq 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just change that to goes to help out on the farms and it's literal Mao Zedong

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not everything bad people did was bad.

[–] iopq 1 points 6 months ago

That idea was definitely bad. Let's get people who don't give a shit, don't have the skills to do work

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Conscription? You'll need more than that. You'd have to press-gang those kids into service, and then hope they don't revolt.

Other alternatives: 1) Becoming the enemy - telling them their families' lives are forfeit if they don't pass muster. 2) Some really top-notch propaganda.

I can think of at least one country that would do both of these, but would deny the first one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I can think of a few that would do it, but one that's probably doing it now