this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2024
563 points (98.3% liked)

Technology

55558 readers
6793 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The long-awaited day is here: Apple has announced that its Messages app will support RCS in iOS 18. The move comes after years of taunting, cajoling, and finally, some regulatory scrutiny from the EU.

Right now, when people on iOS and Android message each other, the service falls back to SMS — photos and videos are sent at a lower quality, messages are shortened, and importantly, conversations are not end-to-end encrypted like they are in iMessage. Messages from Android phones show up as green bubbles in iMessage chats and chaos ensues.

Apple’s announcement was likely an effort to appease EU regulators.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

RCS is the wrong standard to use though, as there isn't a single FOSS Android RCS client. They should support something like Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yea, like that would ever in literally any possible incarnation of any possible existence where Apple is a thing happen. Totally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That wasn't what I was saying though. I was talking about what should happen, not what is likely to happen, and criticising the EU for pushing for the wrong thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, in the Steve Jobs Apple it might have.

Steve originally pushed for web apps to dominate on the emerging open web standards.

Apple used to care about the customer more than they do now (IMO).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Matrix

😂 As an SMS/MMS/RCS replacement?? You're joking. Surely.

[–] herrwoland 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you do anything as merely speak the name of anything FOSS in Apple headquarters, they throw you in a deep dark well in the middle of the campus and remove your name from the world of the living.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Apple have a surprising amount of open-source software. The OS that MacOS and iOS are built on top of (Darwin) is open-source, as is its kernel (XNU). The engine used by Safari (Webkit, forked from KDE's KHTML) is open-source too.

It's not really traditional open-source, though. It does use an OSS license, but they don't really accept public contributions, nor do they track bugs publicly or have a public roadmap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that functionally different from Android being Linux and chromium being open source?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

You can't easily run Darwin OS these days, unfortunately. Apple used to release an ISO you could install on a PC or Mac, but they stopped doing that a long time ago. These days, Apple release the bare minimum amount of code as required by its license, and it's just a pile of code without the build scripts required to actually build it.

[–] herrwoland 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is interesting actually, but compared to other companies I'd not say that's significant. Specially because I suspect they switched to WebKit because they had no other choice 🤷‍♂️

[–] QuaternionsRock 6 points 2 weeks ago

Apple forked WebKit from KDE back in 2001. For all intents and purposes, they didn’t switch to it; they developed it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Let's not forget CUPS which is how everything that isn't windows prints.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Signal would be more reasonable.