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Biden: ‘every reason’ to believe Netanyahu is prolonging Gaza war for political gain
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2024
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The US president doesn’t control the world, contrary to popular American opinion.
You don't think the military support, and the diplomatic cover for Israel that the US provides at the UN (100% within Biden's prerogative) has any influence on the situation?
Well, we really should be thanking Reagan for that if you want to get specific.
The US ambassador to the UN serves at Reagan's pleasure??
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Is that your flight to Denial City?
Tell me why Regan is relevant.
Because he's a convenient boogieman you can use to excuse genocide support?
Keep going…
The US president is literally going around his own Congress to ensure the Israelis are always well stocked with weapons during their genocide.
Yah, those Republicans have just kept trying to shut down weapons sales to Israel at every turn, eh?
Not true
UN veto power goes a long way.
If he stopped supplying weapons, the war would stop as Israel wouldn't have the resources to continue the war on its own.
The US is not the only country who sells weapons to Israel. And, Israel manufactures weapons too. Having fewer super-cool missiles isn’t going to stop them from using the huge stockpile they already have.
What a ridiculous American concept that everything revolves around you.
If they don't even need them, why do we give them any?
Because the military industrial complex is the ruler of the world and our elected leaders are just for show?
Can't argue with that!
You can easily look this up. But of course you're not arguing in good faith.
Oh I see now... Biden is "striking a difficult balance" between his support for genocide, and his public image of not enjoying it.
You completely diregarded the article. Not that I expected you to read it. You asked why and here's the answer.
Ah yes, the law. It can be ignored when necessary and used as an excuse when convenient. How else could Biden be "striking a balance"? If he is bound by this law, why not condemn Israel's genocide in strongest terms? That would be a balance, eh? And what about the law that says we can't supply arms for an ongoing genocide? Ah right, he won't call it a genocide-- conveniently sidestepping that law.
It's mostly them, though, with a bit of contribution from Germany.
I'm not actually sure if being cut off hard would stop them, what with Netanyahu's personal freedom in the mix, but it would hurt a lot.
Nope. The German government stopped issuing weapon export licenses within days. Some stuff arrived that needed licenses but is completely useless in a genocide (training ammunition, artillery charges (not rounds but the propellant part) going to industry for testing), the rest is almost certainly useless in a genocide: 5000 Panzerfaust 2. Kind of hard to deny them that export as they happen to own the producer and Hamas, last I checked, doesn't even have tanks and as they're shaped charges they really only are sensible to use against hard targets.
We still do export plenty of dual-use and non-weapon military equipment, though, those have lower export requirements. Helmets, replacement parts for radars, suchlike.
So just the US then, haha.
Italy also gave them a few helicopters, which amounted to a percent of the total value or so, but everyone else gave pretty much purely symbolic aid before this kicked off. Germany and the US were the whole pie chart.
It would do nothing.
Bold take. Do you know something I don't? Please explain if so.
I don’t know what you know. But since you lead with “bold take,” I’m going to pass. You’re not interested. You just want a fight.
I didn't mean it in a taunting way, it legitimately is just a strong and unexpected statement, from where I sit.
Allow me to rephrase. The story I've heard from pretty much everyone, pro, anti and neutral, is that Israel is a small, vulnerable nation that has been propped up by the US. Do you have hard facts that contradict that?
If so, I want to know, because I don't enjoy being wrong.
But Biden, The American President, could at the very least abide by American Laws in regards to aid. Isreal has been in violation of the FSA for decades and this genocide breached the Leahy Law months ago.
Which American laws are you referring to?
FSA and Leahy Law.
Biden cannot unilaterally stop providing aid to Israel without Congress. The allocation of foreign aid, including military assistance to Israel, is governed by laws and appropriations passed by Congress.
Please don’t misinterpret my lack of finger pointing to be support for Israel. Biden certainly could take a more outspoken position.
Both of those laws are in fact laws. Things that can only be passed by Congress and the President working together. If Congress does not repeal them then the President is still bound by them. The current Congress can appropriate as much money as it wants for a genocidal regime. According to the FSA and Leahy Law it should sit right in that bank account and never get sent to the genocidal regime.
Biden has all the legal cover he needs.
I’m not sure it’s that easy… but I do agree a lot more could be done. If even just a “temporary suspension” until further investigation.
It is exactly that easy.
Of course not. The aliens do!