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‘People ask me to use another door’: MEPs on bias, whiteness and rise of far right
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 31 May 2024
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A healthy reminder of the state of affairs for all the Europeans who like to point fingers at white Americans. They got it from y'all.
I think that it’s been long enough for them to own it for themselves now.
Otherwise we could just keep on saying that we got it from our ancestors and not strive to change.
Americans absolutely have to own it, and many of us try to. America has consistently made awful decisions regarding race.
The point is more that white Europeans are not special, and much of the perceived enlightenment from Europe is either top-down messaging from socially unassailable elites, or from societies that are homogenous enough that the economically insecure don’t (yet) blame their struggles on the tiny number of visible minorities in their community.
Americans who “whatabout” any criticism from an imperfect messenger are probably not acting in good faith, but the inverse is worth considering as well.
Isn't that what they all do?
OK, how about I put it another way - you are as vile as each other.
You happy now?
And yet sadly compared to most of the world they’re some of the least racist.
People I like do bad things because of the situation.
People I do not like do bad things because they are bad people.
Once I understood this all the endless tearing down and who can shit the best on a country/people/religion/ethnicity/whathaveyou on social media made sense.
I really have no affinity for either group but I do find it odd how quick Europeans are to point at American racism while ignoring or denying the existence of their own racist tendencies.
No. If I do not like either group then your point is invalid.
Maybe try: America's racists are as vile as Europe's racists are as vile as Asia's racists are as vile as Africa's racists are as vile as Oceania's racists are as vile as... Antarctica's?
I'm guessing you missed the whole colonial era and what happened in far off places at the hands of Europeans, well into the 20th century (and arguably still in the case of France). But you go off.
The EU parliament (where this article takes place) is based in Belgium and France… right?
Are the Haitians still paying the French for their slave debt or do they still have another century?
Didn’t one of the Belgian kings do a bunch of slavery (I think the euphemism used is “forced labor”) in the Congo up until the 1960s? Like some real vile shit like chopping off hands of people who weren’t productive enough?
I don't think you have any idea how insidious colonialism is, or more specifically European style colonialism. You speak of slavery which is the theft of labor, colonialism is the theft of labor AND resources on a grand scale whilst lying to the world about benevolence.
Replacing slaves with "indentured servants" sourced from places blighted by poverty and starvation caused by European meddling does not give Europeans the moral high ground.
I'm any case neither has it. Only one person attained the moral high ground and only through intense training
Lol who "owned Palestine" until 1948???
Nice try but you guys kept slavery long after the USA got rid of it.
If you truly feel that European racism is in any way comparable to US racism, maybe think again.
People asking you to show your badge when your white friends don't have to sucks and I believe is very demeaning and humiliating. But it's miles away from being shot at or being afraid that your local hillbillies gonna revive the old customs of hanging black fellas.
Yeah just don't ask about the Roma
No shit.