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real progressivism = against hate of all kinds (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by memestoanend to c/politicalmemes

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You’re conflating hate crimes with the political stances people are taking in reference to Israel’s actions in Gaza.

We are not talking about the same thing.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago

Well, what political stances do you think the people committing the hate crimes have? You're right to point out that most of the people protesting Israel's actions are not violent or necessarily antisemitic. But the post your responding to is highlighting that it IS happening. Antisemitism existed before this and it'd be foolish to act like those people wouldn't be the first people to jump on an anti-Israel political movement. So if you're interested in keeping the heart of this political movement untainted by antisemitism, then you'd do well to acknowledge its presence.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are being dismissive of people who are against antisemitism because “they couldn’t possibly be talking about actual antisemitism”

That seems to just be digging a deeper hole for yourself

[–] Pfeffy 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, he's saying that criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic. In fact, I would argue that Israel's actions and attitude are probably the main driving cause of anti-Semitism currently. They are the ones who insist that they represent all Jewish people.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

So you’re saying their comments are entirely irrelevant to the conversation and come from a point of ignorance rather than an attempt to distract and discredit

I initially thought that as well, that’s why I corrected it until they decided to double down on the take