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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Can anyone explain ?

[–] rockSlayer 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.

[–] rockSlayer 19 points 5 months ago

Yes, the different strains absolutely have some differences, and I'm not trying to say it's all bullshit. Weed is awesome, and we should document new stuff as it comes along, but we need to remember that it's all a single plant. I'd say weed is like the apple of drugs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yes. Some strains smell like a baby just shit kn a diaper and some smell like a fresh cut mango mixed with some pine needles lol. Flavor also vastly different! It’s a wonderful plant to explore

[–] Burn_The_Right 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence

This is incorrect. Cannabis is the family designation where Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis are the species designations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is debated. But this string is an explanation of recent debate. Whether it’s all sativa or there are the three sub species. I prefer the sub species route myself.

[+] [email protected] -15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

What do you mean by "same plant"? They are different species.

[–] RadicalEagle 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word "species" has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.

[–] rockSlayer 10 points 5 months ago

No, they're not. Industrial hemp is also Cannabis sativa.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis)

Species[1]

Cannabis sativa L.
Cannabis indica Lam.
Cannabis ruderalis Janisch

Taxonomy is difficult, and we're still figuring it all out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn't even consensus on Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

In mycology one will hear references to 'lumpers' and 'splitters' taxonomically. That is, do we lump these specimens together, or do we split them into difference groupings. When we look at the genetics, it has been the case that we find that those critters that appear similar may not be those that are related by genes/ evolution. And of course by "we" I mean the larger scientific community, not me and the mouse in my pocket. Oh wait, that's not a mouse it's a shrew. ;-)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

My point exactly. That's why I find it a bit strange that the post and some comments here act like it's a certainty.

[–] TheTetrapod -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here. If they can breed and their offspring is fertile, they're the same species.

QED, Spock is sterile.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here

And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons ... but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!

[–] TheTetrapod 2 points 5 months ago

I kind of thought the Spock thing would convey I wasn't 100% serious in my reply to a weed shitpost.

[–] worldwidewave 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As I read it, it’s basically saying there’s only one kind of red wine: red. You’re right, but you’re ignoring all of the subcategories that the typical consumers use to talk about it.

Weed smokers typically consider strains to be either Indica or Sativa, but there’s a whole debate about if those are real differences at all. The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa, hence why this statement is true.

[–] Burn_The_Right -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa...

The plant's family is Cannabis. The plant's species is either Indica, Ruderalis or Sativa.

[–] Burn_The_Right -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The post is wrong.

Cannabis is the family, while Indica, Sativa and Ruderalis are the species.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The part directly above the species is the genus. Family comes after that, and is Cannabaceae in this case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah but the original cannabis indica described has none of the physical characteristics of what it does today, there is not a genetic difference between sativa and indica that is sold in the cannabis market today.