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I feel like this is entirely against Lemmy.world's ethos of "a general-purpose Lemmy instance of various topics, for the entire world to use" (emphasis mine). I for one joined this instance exactly because they didn't have a ban-happy federation policy like some of the other big ones. I understand people's concerns, but if you want a "fuck corporations" walled garden instance, I feel like there are better homes for you somewhere else...
Corporations offer the walled garden. Keeping them and their greedy growth-at-all-costs motives out of here would be better for the community. You have places to go to go enjoy those platforms already. Feel free to use them. Please don't force them on everyone here where they aren't generally welcome and where the communities here do better without them.
We don't have a lot of places to go to get away from them. And again, you can run to them and their platforms without pushing it on the rest of us.
I don't think anyone is forcing anything on anyone? It just sounds like people like you and others in this thread want a more curated instance WRT federation, which I don't think lemmy.world was designed to be (though I'm absolutely keen to be corrected if I've missed something in their policies).
That's the freedom of this platform right, being able to move around to communities that better suit the individual 🤷♂️ Not trying to flame and argument my friend, just sounds like there's a more obvious answer.
I don't necessarily want much interference with content. Just defederate from known bad actors really.
We have no evidence of bad acting in the fediverse from Meta. It's all speculation at this point. And you're changing your argument back and forth from poor content concerns to "meta is evil."
You're asking for a better curated community in the end. If the content is bad or some other weird scenario occurs, then admins will act accordingly.
No evidence of bad acting from Meta? This is a joke right? If you think they will not do their best to pull the same bullshit they have pulled everywhere else you being a bit naive.
I'm not changing my argument. I don't generally want interference with content. BUT in the case of Meta, who is known to be awful, and have awful content, yes I argue that both are good enough reasons to not join hands with them.
You literally misquoted me. I said no evidence of bad acting in the fediverse. Words have meaning. Don't argue in bad faith.
I'm not arguing in bad faith. They aren't in the fediverse yet so of course there is no evidence here yet. I'm pointing out that you are putting your head in the sand and ignoring that Meta is a bad company, with bad intentions, and they will not change just because muh fediverse.
You are arguing in bad faith. You claimed I said Meta never acted in bad faith. I never did. That's a bad faith argument. It's a strawman arguments. Your whole first paragraph is attacking and insulting a position I literally never made. This is a joke, right? You seem a bit naive.
I don't think we will get nowhere with furthering this discussion. I feel you aren't following what I am saying, and I can't tell if it's willful or not. So, my bad. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to discuss anything in bad faith.
I am following you, I just don't think you understand it's incorrect. You change your argument between it being garbage content to being about undetermined, nonspecific dangers from Meta. We barely even ultimately disagree. I'll probably want to defederate Threads. I just don't want to do it for stupid illogical and immature reasons. I want to be consistent with how I approach the fediverse. I will treat all instances the same until the instance shows a reason otherwise. I will not make assumptions based on predetermined notions, no matter what the company has done. Especially since it is mostly moot since Threads has suggested they'll be multi-instance. It's like telling s Lemmy instance don't federate with Kbin. Or a specific PixelFed instance to not federate with Mastodon.