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Russia amps up nuclear threat.

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[–] JesusSon 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  1. Use tactical nukes in Ukraine
  2. get sanctioned out of existence/bombed back to the Paleolithic era
  3. ????
  4. Profit
[–] qooqie 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He won’t just fling nukes to Ukraine. If he’s going to do that he’s going for much more. He also doesn’t care if 95% of the world suffer from the nuclear fallout

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Given the effectiveness of the ruzzian orc army and preparedness of NATO to meet their threats, I wouldn't be surprised if most, not all the silos were hit before they could even launch.

[–] chronicledmonocle 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

"Nuclear fallout" in modern nukes is isolated to the area they hit. As such, modern nukes aren't going to irradiate the atmosphere that would lead to a Fallout video-game style world.

What they will do is kill a f*** ton of people and thermally destroy a specific area REALLY hard. If you're in the blast radius, you won't even know it. You'll be dead from the shockwave so fast you'll have literally less than a second of confusion before you get turned into meat mist.

[–] sugartits 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And who says Russia will use "modern" nukes?

We've already seen rusty museum pieces on the front line in this conflict.

[–] chronicledmonocle 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Modern nukes are also more damaging and explosive. I'd imagine if Russia wanted to go full agro, they'd use the biggest ass bomb they can muster.

But you're right.....they might not use H bombs and opt for A bombs instead.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is that true? :o I thought the way nukes irradiated the atmosphere was through all the dust and shit thrown up during the explosion being blown around by wind currents? Has that changed with new nukes?

[–] ours 7 points 7 months ago

I have serious doubts about how "clean" even a modern nuke is but modern weapons are supposedly more efficient and therefore cleaner than WW2 equivalents. The other factor is where the bomb is detonated.

At ground level, it irradiates and throws up more material than if it is detonated high up in the air in an air burst configuration.

In any case, any kind of nuke crosses a diplomatic line that would bring a world of hurt against Putin which is not worth the tactical win. His nukes are way more useful as a saber to rattle to scare off Western countries from supporting Ukraine too effectively out of fear of escalation.

I could only see Putin use nukes in a desperate last-ditch defense against invaders at Moscow's gates.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More worried about this triggering an ice age and subsequent global failure of what crops remain.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

It'll counteract the global warming! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

when you say modern nukes, do you mean simply H-bombs/thermonuclear/fusion bombs?

[–] chronicledmonocle 2 points 7 months ago

That and also bombs designed to detonate near the surface with an initially downward explosive force.

[–] cygon 2 points 7 months ago

I believe the idea is:

  1. Mention nukes and grab everyone's attention
  2. Run social media campaign ("oh noes, is leading us into war with nuclear power, they bad")
  3. Have bought politicians and lobbyists push to reduce sanctions or block additional sanctions
  4. Profit.

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But increasingly, I see step 2 fail and people simply hate the guy more for his destructive megalomania, as they should.