okamiueru

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[–] okamiueru 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

First of all, I agree with everything you said.

PS: spoiler warning for Thee Body Problem, so just skip that paragraph.

However, I think that deviating from the source, or adding stuff, etc, wouldn't be so destructive, if the writing was actually good.

Three Body Problem adapted by D&D, still felt a bit meh, because they made a bunch of changes that were just terrible writing. They didn't understand the source material, so they made the VR stuff alien tech. They made the stars blink, not the cosmic background radiation. The dimension folding fuck up leading to a giant eye over... Earth?... Why did they think that made any sense? It happened on Trisolaris, and it was such a goosebump inducing thing... Did D&D just think it might look cool, and... Since you cannot easily show it without showing the aliens... They kinda went "let's just do it on earth", even though it made no fucking sense whatsoever, because, they wouldn't have any reason to play a fucking prank on earth. Shits and giggles weren't their thing... Gah.

The Witcher suffered because the writing was actually quite bad at times.

Game of Thrones... I mean... I don't know why Dumb and Dumber get their hands on any work whatsoever. They have shown they know nothing of the world and systems they write for, nor characters or development. It's just embarrassing.

Halo, I haven't watched. And Fallout, I just know that Nolan and Joy are absolutely amazing writers. The only concern I had was to what extent people like Tod could fuck things up.

I think what I'm trying to add is that: Good writers can tell very engaging adaptations within the existing constraints of lore, world and rules, but it doesn't need to be existing canon. You can always tell new stories, as long as it sticks to the established rules and world building people expect. Bad writers fail at that, and often need to add contemporary trends where it doesn't belong. The fundamental issue might just be a skill issue.

Good writing is hard. It requires a lot of effort. You need to be congruent with the world and rules you've built so far. Not everyone will notice everything that deviates. Noticing bad writing is catching a lie given the presented imagined premise. Some suspension of belief is of course necessary, or risk being an annoying pedant. But, don't pretend someone is a level headed strategist, who then sends half their army out of a defensive fortification... to fight an enemy who is known to make dead soldiers fight for them. So which is it, do the people in charge know what castles are for, or did they suddenly become dumb as bread to suit some contrived narrative, or perhaps lack thereof?.. Gah..

J. J. Abrams didn't deviate all that much from lore. But my God what a grade A moron he is when it comes to plots points. Thousands of extremely talented master craftsmen, all coming together to tell a story... that only works if you don't think about it at all. And you might wonder which franchise in particular I'm referring to, as both apply.

The Expanse TV adaptation is a master class in doing everything right. TV is a different medium, and you cannot tell the story in the same exact way. But the changes they did, still told the same story, and most changes just suited visual medium better. They even had to off a character because of real life reasons, which was a little bit abrupt, but even so, they managed to adapt to that just fine.

Wheel of Time... weird additions and focus on romantic relationships that detracted from the magnitude and seriousness of the story itself. Maybe I was just a bit too young when I read the books, but I certainly didn't remember it like that, and it made the characters feel weird, and... immature. Also, somewhat intellectually insulting. Personal sacrifice, and love (? I'm looking for a better word...) for someone, doesn't require romantic interest.

I'm rambling.

TL;DR: Good writing good. Bad writing bad. Bad writing != not 100% aligned with source material. Contemporary tropes for no good reason = bad writing. JJ, please stick to directing. D&D... Maybe take up painting? Pretty please?

[–] okamiueru 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You don't really seem to understand the argument. It's OK tho. And not your fault. Some people simply don't have the ability to understand, or care about something like the common good. As long as there are few enough village idiots like you, society sort of works. It sucks a little bit more, because your little stupid preference is to the detriment to everyone around you. Describing that trait as a human shit-stain, seems pretty spot on to me.

It would be the same as if you had a thing for smearing shit on every lamp-post. We sort of tolerate the village idiot. It'd be nice if he had the capacity to perhaps... not go around and do that stuff, because, how important is it reaaally to go around smearing shit on things? I suppose we'll never know. It seems pretty important to him.

Also, "go find your peace", is such a fantastic dumb thing to say, I almost want to applaud you. What does that even mean? It is peaceful, except when little Dumb Dumb returns home from their usually like-minded friends at 2AM and still thinks its a good idea to make vroom vroom noises. It's not a big surprise tho. They weren't raised properly, or don't have the social intelligence to understand why it'd be annoying at 2PM, so why would it be any different at 2AM?

I'd happily go find my peace. It... and this might blow your little mind.... the level of "peace", in society, is at the behest of the weakest little shitstains' comfort level. You, and those like you, are the low bar.

Some time ago, I'd attribute it as being selfish. You don't mind everyone else being annoyed. You simply consider yourself more important. People who work night shifts and get woken up during the day, or just people getting woken up during the night. Anyone with kids, etc. It's just not considered... Now, I'm more convinced this isn't so much being selfish... as just ... either just having a shit parent(s) who didn't teach you basic decency, so you simply don't know. Which, isn't your fault. The other explanation is that you might just be a little bit sociopathic, so you don't have the capacity to understand it. Which... is also not your fault. The third explanation is that the lightbulb never shone bright enough to notice anyone around you... you like the vrom vrom, and everything else is just a bit too complicated, and anyone who tries to take away your vroom vrom is stoopid. Also, not your fault.

If it smells like a shit stain, looks like a shit stain, and talks like one... I guess it doesn't matter which explanation fits you. It doesn't even matter if you understand why. You simply are. Whether you want to do something about it, meh, odds are you won't. But if you think you are anything other than a piece of shit that annoys everyone around you... lol. You don't really understand much of anything, and I'm a bit sorry for anyone decent in your life.

Cheers. Be better. Shouldn't be hard. The bar is fucking low.

[–] okamiueru 6 points 4 weeks ago

The amount of time I've spent getting my MacOS to not be annoying... it's such a shit experience compared to Gnome/Linux. Every single day I use MacOS, I find a new annoying inconsistency, or either poor or directly bad UX design decision or implementation.

Next time I look for a place to work, I'd consider Windows or MacOS to require at least 30% higher salary to be worth the annoyance.

[–] okamiueru 17 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Your argument seems to be that it somehow matters why you are being a human shitstain. To the rest of the world, there is no difference whether you like being a shitstain for some internal motivation, or whether it is explicitly for the discomfort of others.

In either case, move out to the fucking woods, and you can have your primal pea brain be stimulated by things that go vroom vroom for all I fucking care.

[–] okamiueru 1 points 1 month ago

If they cannot report on things like this, you might wonder why they don't report on important things like inequality, disappearing workers rights, etc, etc.

[–] okamiueru 26 points 1 month ago

Maybe a mechanism for collective bargaining can help mitigate the problem? Something, something, Reagan.

[–] okamiueru 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can I ask in which way it helps? Or perhaps, what in particular it helps with? For example, the "feeling guilty" part is very different from "motivation evaporates", but remedying either, or something else entirely, can be considered helping.

[–] okamiueru 2 points 1 month ago

I get mine to make a clicking sound. Audible to someone else if they stick their ear next to mine.

[–] okamiueru 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/UjtOGPJ0URM

This covers it pretty well.

If you want a very short version: a hypothetical eventuality in the technological advancement of intelligent life, as to limit their existence.

[–] okamiueru 1 points 1 month ago

Hm. I didn't argue against anything of what you're saying here. I'm just saying that it arguably isn't "enshitification".

Enshittification is the pattern of decreasing quality observed in online services and products such as Amazon, Facebook, Google Search, Twitter, Bandcamp, Reddit, Uber, and Unity

I don't see how this is very contentious either.

[–] okamiueru -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Urbanisation and deforestation are not the same as enshitification tho.

It's a bit unfortunate that "increased degree in which something is shit" sounds like what the word should mean, and I suppose it then sort of does.

It's nice to have a word that describes the investor-driven incentives to worsen a service/product to milk out more short-term revenue. The larger a market capture is, the more that can be pushed without an alternative being a threat.

It's the cycle of "provide a good quality service that makes everybody happy" -> market capture -> shareholders push for increase revenue at the expense of quality as there is no competition.

[–] okamiueru 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Last time you made some effort, and it was amusing for once.

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