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To be clear, I think the comment about Gawyn/Galad resembling each other was me misremembering a sentence about their clothes, and maybe also some Elayne/Gawyn prose.

Introduction

For those who don't know, r/AskScienceFiction uses "Watsonian" to refer to an in-universe, suspension-of-disbelief perspective (i.e. you're thinking like Sherlock or James Watson). They use "Doylist" to refer to an IRL perspective (i.e. you're thinking like Arthur Conan Doyle).

I propose that we take advantage of the brevity and clarity this affords with two, potentially 3-4 terms.

(feel free to suggest more)

"Watsonian" candidates

1. Randian
2. Loialist
3. Veriny
4. Brownian
5. ~~Gleemanian~~ (too ambiguous)

Book-specific equivalent

1. Felian

Show-specific equivalent

1. Danan
2. Maksimian
3. Steppinly/Steppinesque

"Doylist" candidates:

1. Jordanian
2. Robertian

An and of Drews.

Sorry, but my coworkers and I decided this yesterday when three of us Andrews showed up together.

And I enabled video for the first time since placing my bookshelf in view of my webcam, with The Wheel of Time consuming the top shelf.

One of my coworkers, who's read 2-4 books, immediately asks if I've seen that Amazon show and launches into a rant about how he watched the first episode or so and kept thinking "I don't remember any of this!"

Though in fairness another coworker who hasn't read any of the books did chime in and say he kind of liked it. [edit: Forgot to mention he gave up in season 2.] A third coworker who has read all (or nearly all) the books hasn't seen the show, but reacted very negatively to learning that Perrin had a wife he killed and such.

Then the first coworker resumes talking to mention he also tried Rings of Power (admittedly after his son told him it was terrible) and he "pulled the plug" ten minutes in.

So together with coworkers from my last job, IRL friends, and IRL friends of friends, I think the total stands at:

*One gave up early in season 2. I don't know if the other one has even watched S2; she mostly just mentions the show to poke at me: "There's this show called WOT that's like LOTR with women."

Excuse me while I seize this sweet, sweet catharsis and channel it into motivation to actually read all of the Big White Book and the Companion. And I guess *Ravens* for completeness.

The following won't mean anything to y'all. It's just notes to myself so I know who the chart's about:

1. Hates/read: NA-RS?, C-JR, F-JJ, F-BT, F-SC
2. WW/read: C-JG, F-AF
3. NO/read: F-C1, F-C2, NOTK-?
4. Likes/!read: C-SM, F-JS
5. Hates/!read: NA-KP

Arguments for:

1. Some of the verbiage around the fight to the death with Valda is very reminiscent of the mental state of someone channeling one of their first few times.

2. Channeling is inheritable, and Galad is half-brother to Rand.

Arguments against:

1. Galad's kind of old to be manifesting the spark.

2. The verbiage around the fight with Valda could be more linked to the flame and the void than seizing the Source per se.

Discuss.

A massive, loyal-to-the-messiah dessert warrior culture (of which said messiah’s mother became an adopted member), a secretive order of women mystics pulling the strings on human civilization, weapons inspired by the Javanese kris, a heavy focus on political intrigue and machinations, a strong focus on a near-instantaneous method of traveling, and so on and so forth.

I’m astounded that the book Origins of the Wheel of Time completely failed to mention Dune when listing out all the inspirational works and events for Robert Jordan’s magnum opus.

A massive, loyal-to-the-messiah dessert warrior culture (of which said messiah’s mother became an adopted member), a secretive order of women mystics pulling the strings on human civilization, weapons inspired by the Javanese kris, a heavy focus on political intrigue and machinations, a strong focus on a near-instantaneous method of traveling, and so on and so forth.

I’m astounded that the book Origins of the Wheel of Time completely failed to mention Dune when listing out all the inspirational works and events for Robert Jordan’s magnum opus.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11138902

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11138902