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Sorry I’m bad at expressing myself cohesively. I am a person that thinks a lot but rarely speak. So for the most part I am just going to splat everything inside my head raw and call it beauty. I don’t want to oversell my intellect or claim I can solve the problem you are facing. But I do have something unique to share. And I do think it can work. If you are not afraid to get things dirty. As to what you’ll get out of it... I hope is the uplifted spirit. Another perspective... Unity. to fight, and the determination to overcome fascism.

That is the feeling I want you to have. But eh. Whatever. Start the topic.

Okay. You people, need to stand up for yourselves now.

I am going to try to guide you how to survive and overcome this.

Start with obvious. First, move to democratic cities if you can. I don’t have much else to elaborate on this. So move on.

Now you need to count your tools.

  • You have the economical power at your side. You can strike. One of the big goal of fascist is about profit and economy. Rich billionaires behind Trump might flinch if you managed to tank their company.

  • You have the number. 50% of the population siding with you. You are not powerless.

  • You have blue states.

  • You have guns.

  • And this and that. Lay this down here. So I can move on to other things.

  • You also have other countries like Canada, Mexico, EU... I don’t know what you can do with them. Or if they would offer any help or intervention. In what way? Anyway. Ask them if they are willing to provide anything at all to help you guys. No harm trying. The permission to move logistics between blue states through Canada would be nice.

  • Also, what Republicans wanted to achieve in their agenda is economically, logistically, and in all and every other way impossible, and will strain their time, manpower, finance, and everything else to the brink of collapse. So don’t worry. A lot of people will die. But they are pretty much beatable.

  • You also have “crow march”. A concept I invented. Now listen, this part is going to be hard. You can’t shut your brains off, and think this won’t happen, or it won’t be this bad. Now be ready.

A crow don’t bury those who departed. If a crow was gone. They will make sure every crows witness the act. Democrows, Republicrows, every crow. Now imagine if they are not crows, but humans; Not one, but many. Victims from police brutality, from abortion ban, from mass shooting, from preventable work accident and disease…

Strip them clean, then put the body onto a cross for march, let them out on display for 3 months or longer. Spread the image. Generate controversy. Protect the body. Do not let cops, or any other people get to it. Throw body parts at the cops, the right politicians if you have the chance. Also, people working with internet service must resist internet shutdown. People working with media company must resist their censorship. They need to let gore image pass the filter, to spread to impact the viewers. It will either radicalize Dems to come out and do more, or de-radicalize Reps to back down. But I know with how things shaping out, crow march is not going to stop them. So lets continue on.

  • Talk to republican voters. I know. I know. You don’t want to. I won’t blame you if you don’t want to at this point of time. They just got their victory. You can’t change them. But in 3 months, then in 6 and onward this will matter. Also I want to get the less useful ideas out before moving into the more useful ones, This is one of those. But this can still hold some strategical significance so don’t flat out rejects it. Talk. Not in person. Talk thru phone or internet. It doesn’t need to be you to talk to them. Pick someone with dedicated role who can handle heat professionally. Don’t need to talk politics. Just need you to be human, and treat them like human. Tell them you voted democrats and nothing further unless they ask. Don’t judge. Don’t defend your position. Don’t attack them for their positions. Don’t over invest. Just talk and listen. Keep a channel open so they are not stuck in an echo chamber, and the divide won’t grow further. If the conversation become hostile beyond salvation, then there is one last thing you should do. Warn them to not get involved with violence. Tell them If they are willing to just chill a little, look around, they should realize they are not the one in immediate danger. They have no reason to partake in any part of violence. Then you take your leave.

  • Talk to democrat voters. Organize. Help each other to go through this. Train how to use gun, barricade, aids, hideout, and stuff. I won’t going to mention much about organizing. You know it better than I do. And this is not an article about that. So move on. Promise each other they won’t be abandoned. No one will be left behind to be deported, or die.

  • This is a very important promise that need to comes from you, the people and not the politicians.

  • It’s only when everyone feel safe, loved, protected, that they can fight and resist effectively.

  • You can lose 100 battle and still come back if the sentiment is there.

  • This is not a goal you can realistically achieve. You probably can’t do much to help people that are not in the blue state. But it’s the sentiment you must carry out without condition. And with all your might and conviction.

  • Hug around Democrat politicians. However shitty they are.

  • Building a new party from stretch is hard, and all the people that would support you are already inside the Dem.

  • They still have the entrenched institutional power from decades of inertia. There are still people like Bernie and AOC within the party.

  • You still need them to represent and fight for you. Just a bit longer I promise you.

  • Republicans are not going to jail or kill them. Not right away.

  • But make sure to defend them, protect them, guard them, shield them with everything you have regardless. No matter the cost. Especially the less prominent ones.

  • I want to separate Dem party into 3 group in the context I needed. Donors, Politicians, and Voters. Donors can move to Reps with welcome arms. Politicians and voters are both fucked.

  • Rep politicians will rather have Dem politicians as enemy. One, they don’t need Dems politicians to do the job they are already doing, two, even if individual Dem politician willing to embrace right doesn’t mean they are likely to move their base right. So they are effectively useless. Three, Reps need an out-group to crusade against to appease their own base of power. So, high profile name holder Dems like Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie, AOC and others are fucked they aren’t getting away easily. But they have strong control to the party. So protect them. Try to convince them to stick with us.

  • The only Dems they want are the people that will sabotage other Dems from the inside. This type of people will also threaten the survival of other Dem politicians, include the upper brass. So with that as motivator, urge them to treat the threat seriously. As for the us, the people, another political system should be proposed to more equally distribute their power into the hands of the people. I will give you the framework later.

  • Dem politicians no matter who they are will likely be attacked by political opponents by legal means or by stochastic terrorism, even if some of them tried to work with the Republicans after the election.

  • If your representative feel discouraged or scared, they might stop fighting, selling you out, resign, or flee. If that happens you’ll lose a lot of legal and institutional power, and any vernier of legitimacy you ever had.

  • To deal with those Dem politicians who want to abandon trans, marginalized people, do you remember the promise I mentioned about no one left behind? You need to turn that rhetoric way way louder. Surpass the noise coming from the top. To Shut them up.

  • Tell them this is not a democrats problem, not a lgbtq problem, not a non voter problem, it’s a whole america problem. They need step up to represent all of America, represent even the republican voters that will be hurt. Not just their party. Hope this rhetoric could get through them. But if that doesn’t go through them, a few case of assassination attempts from the right probably would. It should be clean pack from there on.

  • Next, create a parallel government or call it a supplemental government around Democrats if you can, outside of legal system if Democrats don’t want be associated with it.

  • Progressive Dems are very likely to join even if the rest are likely to decline. Having progressive left on the board is good enough. -But if progressive left are in it, then chance that the rest of the neo-liberal Dems will be force to engage dialogue in or with this newly created framework increases as well.

  • Then convince all democrats voters and possibly non voters to join in and engage with the system.

  • Then bring in Rep voters to engage with the system. Our of rage, curiosity, malicious intent or whatever.

  • And then also bring in foreigners.

  • More engagement brings us legitimacy. Bigger numbers brings us legitimacy. Attacks help us understand the weakness of and improve the system. A robust system that can withstand attack, will bring confidence, thus legitimacy.

  • If Rep politicians refuse to engage then they will be the ones left out. If they engage, then by their action, they validate the system.

  • But this is not the victory I waste so much of your time on. It solves nothing.

  • Now here is the system I proposed. You can take a glance at it now, or look at it in depth later. https://imgur.com/a/5izwzKn

  • The premise of this “parallel/supplemental” government and their role at the beginning is very simple -- self preservation, provide sanctuary, prevent and mitigate harm for anyone in need, to “Catch America when they fall.” To “Represent the unrepresented”. This is the front facing sentiment we need to make clear impression on people’s mind.

For those skip the image. What I proposed in theory should be a direct-democracy-esque system. It’s not a software, it’s a concept, a concept you can run on. The Dem representatives are free to participate alongside you. But they don’t have the control over.

The primary goal of the system is to:

  • Show people a working alternative system.

  • Put power into the people’s hands.

  • We need to have something up and running before the current system is completely gone.

  • We need a system to call our own. Because without an alternative everyone will and can only default to the Republican drafted laws. Without a system of our own we will have no good reason or excuse or anchor or cohesion to resist and challenge Reps narrative and rulings.

  • You don’t need to use the system I developed. You can take inspiration from other countries, from past constitutions, socialist/anarchist theory, or develop or mismatch your own.

  • But the system I design can address things like disinformation, “first past the post”, “tyranny of the majority” and some other problems. It’s not perfect, but you can borrow some concept or develop the rest from there.

  • If you can incorporate it into state law then great. If not, whatever. Laws mean nothing anymore. Make whatever excuse you want. Legal, illegal, cling to state law, cling to Christianity, cling to Ancient constitution, cling to new global movement, cling on “the people”, cling to Roman empire… whatever.

  • Do you know why I included foreigners into the movement? Because the internet is border-less.

  • To be an optimistic, my bigger goal is to grow this project into a true colossal global governmental body encompass EU, Canada, Mexico Africa and the rest of the world. It become something bigger than USA, or any singular nation. And by then, Republicans will no longer post threat to you. No country can post a threat to you.

  • Then with this new global governmental body, we can overcome the rise of fascism and then tackle climate change together.

  • So, no matter which country you are from, please join in to make this work.

  • If your country is not corrupt. You can also pressure the government itself to join in the movement. That will bring more legitimacy and make other country joining easier.

  • But pass a tipping point your government cannot stop you. Even in places like Iran or China. It’s logistically impossible. It would become safer for them to join by their own volition and negotiate a peaceful and lucrative retirement, or an advisory/supervisory role if they still want to cling on to power. Thus resolve the issue relatively amicably. That’s what I hope.

  • Then we tackle climate change.

  • Honestly, I think this is the best outcome for our future.

  • But now lets’ turn back to USA. Let’s assume a global coalition is not happening.

  • Draw a line or a few lines, made it clear to all Republicans that it is a line which you and all other Democrats will defend with lives. “Don’t harm x”, “don’t infringe x right”, “don’t do x”… You all can decide what the line is. They will ignore it. Do is to bring all people to the same page, to agree on to a powerful turning point where all actions to be put forth without reservation.

  • Use Republican’s viciousness as your tool. Everything they do and want to implement will cause harm to people in one way or another. They are also very stupid and prone to fucking things up. And now they are in control. Those factors has the potential to sway people back to your side again. Utilize that to your best ability. Don’t let their fuck ups to waste.

That’s also why I need you to keep a channel open to republican voters. I know you don’t want to, but you must have someone periodically reaches out to them. And it is at this point you can finally talk sense into their head. These are the talking points.

  • How much they’ve/we all lost. Family, friends, peace, unity, healthcare, retirement…

  • You want them to weep for what they’ve lose.

  • They you want them to look toward for our future, tell them what we can be, and how are we going to make things better, rebuild, gain, protect…

  • Then you want to tell them how little they need to do, how easy it is, or that they don’t need to do anything. Don’t vote for Reps, don’t pay taxes, don’t fight, don’t participate…

  • Any bits helps.

  • Now, hunker down, hang on, buy time until another election, or till Republican party lose their appeal, or till the system I proposed adopted, globally, and unite the world. Or until Trump die. They won’t be another popular uprising within the right. Because Republicans that are closest to the power will not allow it.

  • A lot of people in governmental or other important institutional position will be fired. Teachers, doctors, scientists, … Recruit them. Bring them into the system. I don’t necessary mean that we relocate them to blue state. Wire funds to them, let them continue to provide their service in their original location if possible. That will also be one of the way we can gain territory.

  • With passing time we could become more and more representing an actual governmental body, and Reps more like a group of ragtag bandits. If they want to fully dismantle the government, then they are no longer the government. And we still are.

  • If both crow march and de-radicalization effort fail, a hot conflict might become inevitable.

  • But hear this -- Logistic, commerce, and trades must, and will flow. If they can’t break you in 6 months or a year, or two years, then they will have to give up and accept coexistence. Or they can go eat grass, or be roasted on a stick by a mob of angry peasants. Whichever they prefer.

  • And with everything tools I illustrate to you, I can promise that you will not be broken. Not going to happen.


All of this, planning of resistance. You can talk openly right now before anything happens. You must talk openly. Let not just dems know, but the reps voters, and their politicians too. Why?

  • So the softer Dems are mentally prepared.

  • Force the Dems politicians to make decisions instead of sitting around doing nothing.

  • Force the media, Rep voters, low information voters and non voters to care.

  • Force the Reps to respond to your open talk of resistance, to properly acknowledge their intention, to say they are indeed going to kill you and all Democrats out loud, or force them to re-evaluate their chances of success, and the irreversible consequence if they still decided to push it through.

  • Force the military to make response or statements.

  • Force foreign nations and the people from other nations to make response or statements.

  • Then hopefully nothing happens after the open declairation. Both side play it in their head before commit it into actions. We make political commitment to their agenda, then they make adjustment to our commitment, then we make further calibration to their adjustment… then everyone realize the whole thing is a terrible idea, they don’t have as clear path to Totalitarianism as they initially thought, they don’t want to go through this. Then no one dies, nothing happen.

  • Then the goal here then become to reduce harm and prevent tragedy, not fighting fascism. If no blood is spilled, then the fight can return to political, sociological and ideological arena. It’s kind of unsatisfying after al the bigger than life event I draft out for you. But for moral reason, I think that would be the best outcome for everyone.

  • That’s why I think you should be loud and open. In contrast, you’ll gain nothing from hiding. Less people know, worse on the ground coordination, politicians will still delusion with “working together”, military and foreign nations will be hesitant to give support, fascist will be even more embolden. Climate will die... Hiding is hoping your enemy to have mercy to not rig the next election, wasting 2 years in abject misery hoping on a limp dick party that can’t pull themselves together for the mid-term. If you hide you’ll be doom from the get go.


Random

  • Police and military are humans. What I mean is they can be scared, feel tired, stress, fatigue. And have basic instinct for their own survival. Trump policies will also affect them. Also they have families and undefended properties… Make them feel the job is not worth to keeping. Force them to quit their job that way.
  • The chance of anyone going down under is lower than you think. 1-3% of the total population at best. I think. It’s a lot. But in a big statistic sense you have nothing to be afraid of.

Now all I’ve been talking is about fighting back. But there’s another option -- to wait it out. I won’t blame you for choosing this option. It’s true, Fascist regime won’t last forever. It’s also true, that they are very incompetent. It’s true you all have at least one last chance in 2 years mid-term election. But things can also go very wrong before that. So you need to think what if you can’t wait it out? At what point waiting it out become no longer an option? And we truly must fight them head on? At what level of casualties? Or critical laws being revoked? What is the cut off point? If this is the path you all pick, then you all have to discuss it now.

Which path should you as a whole pick? I won’t deny I have bias toward the former option. And if you are still reading my this, you can feel the influence of this bias. So which path should you as a whole pick? I thought about it for a bit, and I think you should evaluate your choice in a goal orientated manner.

  • Can you bring all the Dems to band together?
  • Can you bring the bigger world outside of US to build this common cause? Can you reach those two goals? What action you should take depends mostly on if you think you can hit those two conditions.

I cannot predict the future. What I did just now is paint you a more exaggerated picture. A story. But this story shapes your perception. Before that you were dooming, hopeless. There are things you can do at any juncture of the road. Now you can see a path forward even in the darkest of the nights, I think that’s something. Also, I think the system I developed is genuinely have the potential to be the next big step in building democracy.

My take could be wrong. Fatally so. But nothing this complex comes out right the first time. Batter person can come out and make correction to it. So spread this out even if you disagree with me. Please rather have a throughout discussion with the whole society than trying to bury the uncomfortable message you see.

I said my words. I will say more if I need to. I’m not an American, and my English is not that good. It would be nice if somebody willing to re-format this. But I think you all can understand me just fine. Good luck, I love you all, Be safe comrades.

[–] Username02 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I used to see it that way but now? I doubt it will be that simple. So what if Trump is gone and no other republican leader can fit his shoes? Do they even have to?

Maybe it can be even more beneficial for the republicans to have a dead Trump. They can finally have complete control over his thoughts, his brand, image, his idealogy. With ai technology they can insert a nostalgic idealized version of Trump that he never was. More charismatic, more cohesive, malleable, and eternal. A figure like Jesus, like Mlk, like founding fathers. Who cares the real trump is dead? You can do anything with a base that is so hopelessly lost.

[–] Username02 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's horrible. Think of all the blood someone else has to clean. For that reason I suggest strangle.

[–] Username02 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The mosquito we see around us are invasive species that we humans brought along as we migrate across the continent. Make sense if their extinction bring neglectable impact to the local ecosystem. They aren't supposed to be there to begin with.

[–] Username02 1 points 1 month ago

Deliberate mental illness is how. Been struggling to get up for a decade now. Still struggling. Lol. (kill me pls)

[–] Username02 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's funny because she is fat? Is that it?

[–] Username02 0 points 2 months ago

Sure thing Musk.

[–] Username02 1 points 2 months ago

Try another app maybe? Aye that's the extent of help I can give you.

 

I created this a long time ago. It's a bit cringe. But with this, I hope, we can effectively counter online disinformation; Have a platform that is hard to manipulate, more transparent, truthful, and effective than for-profit media, and perhaps something that can even carry policy and decision-making capacity outside representative democracy. I believe this is something close to how a system with direct democracy could function but other people may disagree.

This also complement well with my other topic, corpse march, and retake the police. I won't explain why. Writing is hard. Maybe next time.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Username02 to c/this_tree_for_crows
 

Join cops or retake the police

Every left or center leaning young and able body person should join cop/military.

The basic idea is to use waves of new recruits to “wash” the institution like it’s dirty rag.

good cop in (that’s us) > bad cop exposed > bad cop jailed/fired/suspended (goal) if bad cops jailed/fired/suspended > insert more good cops if good cop fired/killed > insert another good cop > repeat the process

There will be some deaths. Look at my other post to see how to deal with death.

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That is if Kamala Harris won the election of course. You’ll have no chance if Trump won the election. With Democrats you have slightly better chance of carry out this kind of operation.

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While you are on the job you must identify yourself. With identifiable items, badge, certain phrase etc.

bring certain mental association to people you are interecting with. Cops with identifier = good, trustworthy; cops without identifier = do not trust them.

Don’t hide. Hiding means no outside intervention can meaningfully reaches you. You’ll die, they made up some bullshit for your death and you will be forgotten.

Also for accountability reason.

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On the job you are, in all intent and purpose, a cop. You wield the same privilege, same bullshit power they wield. Things they can get away with, you can too. Remember that.

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You are not going to stay there to collect retirement funds. You will quit after one or two years and let other people took over.

Because no sane person want to be cops for that long. And it’s better for the check and balance, limit exposure, and less likely they are to be contaminated by corruption.

If they do become cohort with corrupted cops, we can have easier time replacing them. Maybe.

Unless acquisition of higher position is beneficial.

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To be frank, a big point to this is to convince you people to support this strategy. A lot of you are going to be anarchist. “ACAB” to the core. To you guys any sort of entangelment with the cops is a no no, to the point of irrationality I must say.

I think the way the left completely abstain in the acquisition of power is counterproductive and absurd. Be mindful, be diligent, catch them and replace them in time, and the worst outcome can be avoided or mitigated.

To address the long lasting fear that is “all power corrupts”. Which I am mostly agree on principle.

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If we con control, or neutralize the control over the cops and the military, then it’s all truly over. For that, I’d say any sacrifices is worth it. Without cops or military the rich have no arms and no teeth to use against proletarians.

how are they going to incite war, if the military will refuse? Contract private military? Good luck.

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monitor

Warn them if they recklessly engagement in deadly force.

Start recording.

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Legal duties that conflict to your standard of moral such as forced to evict homeless people, giving ticket, beat up students,

utilize malicious compliance, performative incompetence, and other similar methods to minimize harm done to the victim.

Or in more extreme scenario, you obstruct and force halt their operation, then let yourself be arrest or fired afterward. You may die.

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You also want a robust supporting group at any circumstances that can do things listed below:

  • provide lawyer
  • provide a constant and reliable media coverage. It can help to expose corruptions, counter mainstream narrative, and deter assassination attempts.
  • provide financial support or job opportunity to those fired
  • have means to shelter, and to provide safety or route to escapes to whistle-blowers, cops that switched, and their families.

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Find

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“Retake the police”. Just like Kamala famous slogan “We are not going back!”. It’s powerful. It projects determination. It project aggressiveness. Active participation, and Strength! “Retake the police!”

If we can’t abolish them, WE TAKE THEM.

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If you feel none of this are good and safe solution, you are right.

The best and safest solution is the state, us it’s massive authority, go through a thorough evaluation, to regulate, reign in, crack down, fire, and jail the offensive cops.

But you don’t have that option. You can’t just trust the current authority to do things right, and not abuse their power. Do you?

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Just one or two years and you can move on.

If you don’t want to do it you shouldn’t complain living in dystopian police state. Just close your eyes. When another innocent person die from police brutality. You all deserve every bit of it.

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a few word to regular cops.

If you want to work till your retirement, you better clean up your act; conversely, quit now. If you know you are not up to the standard and prone violence,

Before you do something you will regret and forced to live the rest of your life in jail.

There should be effort to be made to assist them, to deprogram or to help them transition to a new job.

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Corpse march [WIP] (self.this_tree_for_crows)
 

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Bring the corpses of the victims to protest, march them to the capital, and let their bodies rot in front of the public and media.

Participants are expected to protect the corpses even with the cost of their own lives when they are confronted by an armed force in a violent attempt to remove those corpses.

All who died on the street stay on the street. The march will not stop until apologies are issued, demands meet, policy changes, and criminals are prosecuted. The march will not stop, no matter how long it takes, or the cost of human life.

That is the basic of it.

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Police brutality, workplace accident due to deregulation, miscarriage, mass shooting...

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The dilemma the government will face

The corpse will decay, the longer they drag on before an action is taken the worse outlook it will seem — for both the decaying corpses and the public perception regarding the authority’s handling of the issue. The situation will create a timed pressure that cannot be discharged, downplayed, or ignored.

Employ force to disperse the protest will cause more death, escalate.

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Optically hard to go against.

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Propose a viable solution to government.

prove the issue is solvable. People can compare our proposed solution against the government proposed solution and form opinion based of the discrepancy.

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more careful in engagement

one think you cannot do is fight back. Lay out condition. If they breach the condition.

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Compare corpse march to hunger strike and self-immolation.

All three are extreme protest measure.

It is a timed urgency same as hunger strike, one risk or starving to death, another become hazardous and visually appalling pass a certain time.

It’s like self-immolation, it’s shocking, it generates conversation, but you are not engaging in a suicide. You take care of yourself up until pigs in uniform bash you dead on the head.

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strip the corpse naked, put it on a cross, put all the scars and bruises for all to see, flooding it on internet on every popular sites, blasting horrific and agonizing screech and all that... Is it moral? Yes. Yes Yes Yes. It is. If it gets people to talk to, if it turn people off, if it make people angry. Then it is! You do not get to distance yourself from the brutality. You do not get to lecture us for disrupting your peace, WHEN WE HAVE NONE! Anger is the last expression a brutalized victim wanted! They would not want peace their abuser offered.

They(criminals, murderers, people responsible) should be afraid of walking under the sun, for from now on, the only thing that protects them is the four walls of their cell.

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What about children? What about those who suffered from depression, or traumatized? Should they be exposed to this horrific scene?

They already did! Children are face with deadly shooting every school day. There’s multiple wars, insurgency and a genocide ongoing. Why do you care now all the sudden?

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Username02 to c/this_tree_for_crows
 

US future Reality check:

Will Kamala win the election? On paper, maybe. But it depends on how the swing states go.

But even then, “Will Kamala win” is mostly a moot question. Because The Republican Party will cheat. Range from reject to certify votes to straight up another coup.

Should you be worried? No. You should be prepared. But not worried.

What extend of readiness the Democrat leadership is in? According to a recent news, “Biden not confident of peaceful transfer of power if Trump loses election” signing that they are deeply aware of the risk, it’s reasonable to believe they have comprehensive degree of contingencies planned.

How likely are they going to stage a coup? Current Republican strategy seems to be heavily focus on vote purges, and abuse the power of the state election board to give them the victory directly. There hasn’t been any surges of rhetoric and activities that lead to the suspicion of a coup in planning. So any coup attempt is likely poorly planned and unsustainable. Check in again in a few months to see if this is still the case.

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How the coup will go down:

Pre-stage

  • gerrymander
  • vote purge
  • give state election board power to overturn result
  • prepping their base on the thought of another violence insurrection

Day of vote

  • vote intimidation
  • vote impersonation
  • tossing out ballots

Post vote

  • cry foul “election is rigged”
  • rally maga crowds into violent action

Last stage

  • have all red state officials toss out the election result, bring along with state police and other units that are under their control with them.

Every step before the last are almost guaranteed to happen. But when I say coup, I only mean it at the meaningful last stage, where red state officials openly rejects the election result.

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If there’s going to be a coup, the outcome can be split into 4 scenario.

  • The Dems clean shutdown on their coup attempt
  • The Coup failed, but Republicans managed to walk back to another 4 years of “nothing happen”.
  • Messy shutdown on coup attempt: State officials declare their support for Trump, election result rejected, but they failed to gain major progress before their momentum stalled. Future become unpredictable.
  • The coup is successful, and Dem leadership are arrested or forced into hiding or exile.

The first three are the most likely scenario consider A, the Dems party are prepared and B, the Dem voters are highly energized, and likely willing to put up meaningful resistance.

The last scenario is statistical unlikely possibility for the same reason as above. But it is also because:

  • It is more likely they either won the election, so no coup is necessary.
  • Or they can’t win the election because their voters aren’t excited enough. And if that is the case then how much of their voters are excited about the prospect of backing another coup?

So a coup is the last ditch attempt in a sense. If they are counting on a coup long before Nov 5, they are already lose.

But then again, it doesn’t mean they will be defeated easily. It only seems so because we are focusing on a path where they are forced to do a coup right now.

The takeaway form this, if there’s any, is that a coup is almost certain(maybe not) with a Dem victory. Pull off a coup is harder than winning the election.

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Now Lets explore what would happen if Trump won. While less likely at the time I wrote this, it is still a highly possible outcome, a one you must pay attention to.

With Biden Drop out and Kamala in the ballot, Democrats morale and tensions are high. Any light provocation after they won the election will boil Democrats over, and spurn them into action.

So the R party either come in planned to do a massacre, or tippy toes around controversial issues in hope as little people opposing them and their agenda as possible. But they are dumb and arrogant, and don’t know why is that a bad idea. So my bet is they will try the former. But it won’t happen overnight. You’ll still have a few days to a few months to make preparation after the election.

(Below are written just after Kamala announce her run for presidency. Democrats were just peaking up, but we don’t know how far the changes would excite Dem voters, and the Republican party were still very dominant at the time.)

More than just racial and sexual minorities, Democrats representatives will also be targeted. Tension will broke out almost immediately.

What could happen and when? No one can tell. It’s completely out of your control. But it’s not all doom and gloom. You still have things to be optimistic about.

Trump is too old. Nobody can replace Trump. Barely 50% of people support him Other 50% of people hate, hate, HATE him. Most of governmental administrative building is located within deep Blue region. Dem government on your side. The goal is economy. Trump is a weak dictator.

Maybe there are few things you as a collective can do.

Militarize, unionize, stock up essentials, and keep talking to people. Build up as much as you can. Do not engage in aggression until they then.

The next step is to urge the EU, Canada, Mexico, and other allies for intervention.

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If Democrats are smart they should already been talking with Canada, Mexico, and other EU countries for intervention for the possible worst case scenario. You can start talking about it in case they haven’t.

Maybe if you talk loud enough, you might able pressure the leaders of other countries to make public assurance independent of their private talks with the cabinet.

But even so, the level of commitment toward an intervention, or if they are willing to committed any are all unclear.

These are some of the more reasonable action they might committed to.

Accept refugees sanction or other economic deterrent military assistant/ military deterrent

Their assistance will not based on principle. Depend on how the new administration act, how dire the situations are, were important figure targeted, how much it affect the western hegemony, and how sensational the journalist reporting is, assistance beyond refugee acceptance is minimally scoped, or very unlikely.

Unless they already talked and made agreements prior to the election. If they hasn’t done so, you can help remind them.

This is already a conjecture upon a conjecture. Beyond knowing a Trump victory will not be the end of democracy, and you might have allies to rely on, there’s no point in talking further.

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You do whatever other Democrats do. You fight if the Dem leadership are willing to fight. You flee to other country if you see people start packing.

But that’s enough tangent we don’t need to over think for now. It’s not November, Dem numbers are good, a lot of things can still happen, you can’t do anything about it.

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That’s about it I guess. Not a US citizen personally. So you need to check if I’m off. But I think even if I’m off, it’s not by much.

And also, if you think I am off, that’s probably because politic is an ever changing landscape.

Kamala Harris just had an overwhelming victory, so a lot of these talk look a lot like some fantastical nonsense. This text was conceived when, and as a response to Biden catastrophic CNN debate, and continued it’s formation when Biden refuses to drop out, and defeat seems inevitable. Remember those time? Fun. Innit? This text was only revisited and polished after Kamala Harris had her surge in popularity.

A lot of you would take the text more seriously if Biden was still on the ballot I bet. But still, situation changes all the time, and it will continue to change in the future. Read this again if you are ever in the bad timeline again. It might have some grounding effect.

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Maybe Trump is not fight as hard as he should. Because he has no reason to?

With the supreme court and Republican loyalists in all level of the government, and with most of the charges already dropped, he is no longer going to be prosecuted.

And maybe after the assassination attempt, his heart is no longer in it?

Just conjecture.

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[–] Username02 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

God created hell so we can one day drag his psychotic ass there.

[–] Username02 12 points 3 months ago

"Now jobs are supposed to be miserable, so joy is canceled"

[–] Username02 33 points 3 months ago (16 children)

Can he be the president instead? 🥺

[–] Username02 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you get off from being stupid?

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